[Rwp] seeking advice: general tips and suggestions for a c++ developer who wants to make an accessible plugin
Hadi Rezaee
hadirezaei at gmx.com
Wed Feb 4 16:33:59 EST 2015
Thank you scott, let me know how that goes
On 2/4/2015 11:41 PM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote:
> Aha, the context menus being accessible is a really good sign. I
> should have some working eyes around tomorrow to get through that
> authorization window. I've got to get some focus stuff checked for
> OSARA, but that shouldn't take long, and this is next on the list.
>
> On 2/4/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> Hi scott
>> Here's the link for his website:
>> http://www.scuffhamamps.com/
>> His software is free for 15 days, and a small problem is the licensing
>> window at the start, which cannot be read by jaws at least.
>> After you get rid of that screen, the whole plugin is not accessible,
>> with some exceptions!
>> first of all, all elements of the app is recognizable by jaws, because
>> If you check the virtual cursor, graphics are all over your screen.
>> Second, you can use your arrow keys to switch presets, though you need
>> to enable the bridging of the reaper, so you get a different window for
>> the plugin.
>> third, you can kind of right click on the elements of the app and get
>> accessible pop up menus, but since you have no idea what rack in which
>> part of the chain you are clicked on, It's hard to do things.
>>
>> The app has like 5 amps, which are amazingly designed. the high gain
>> ones need some tse808 behind them to be able to get that heavy metal
>> sound.
>> On 2/4/2015 10:28 PM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote:
>>> Ok, well I'd say that coming up with a user experience that doesn't
>>> involve 500 parameters would be a good start while you're waiting for
>>> someone with development knowledge to chime in.
>>>
>>> I'll download the plug and take a look to see if there's any
>>> suggestions I can make. It's a really cool start that this chap is
>>> receptive to the idea and that you've got an ongoing dialog.
>>>
>>> On 2/4/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Scott
>>>> Yeah, you can edit the current amp parameters, their EQ switches and
>>>> some other settings with shift+P.
>>>> But since the app has a single chain which racks are put on it, other
>>>> rack's parameters are scattered around 500 parameters.
>>>> but amp parameters are always at a cirtain number!
>>>> I do not even know what shall i suggest to him in regards to
>>>> accessibility. his plugin is a big one, full of controls and dynamic
>>>> racks along a chain. We came in a conclusion for a nice keyboard layout
>>>> at least. and it is awesome that he's willing to give this a try;
>>>> though, It'd be awesome if some more experience users could help us.
>>>>
>>>> On 2/4/2015 10:06 PM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote:
>>>>> Yep, definitely ask him. You might want to hold that thought for a bit
>>>>> though in case you get better responses here with other questions to
>>>>> ask.
>>>>>
>>>>> Question for you this time, where's the plugin currently at with
>>>>> automation parameters? Can you hit Shift+P on a track with his plugin
>>>>> inserted and get at any of the controls that way? If not, that should
>>>>> probably be his starting point, as it'll also benefit anybody who uses
>>>>> a control surface. That's a way bigger bunch of people than screen
>>>>> reader users.
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/4/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Well, He didn't mention any of those. should i ask him about that?
>>>>>> The plugin is S-Gear, the guitar amp suite. I've tried it and it is
>>>>>> completely inaccessible, but the quality of the software is far more
>>>>>> than guitar rig, or kuassa.
>>>>>> It's been months that i'm in contact with the developer, and he's
>>>>>> willing to make his plugin accessible.
>>>>>> We started with a keyboard layout, and i suggested something to him,
>>>>>> though It is really hard to suggest a keyboard layout for a guitar amp
>>>>>> suite, since all those things with chain, racks and devices and such!
>>>>>> Now if he manages to implement the keyboard navigation, he needs to do
>>>>>> something so the app talks to the screen readers when the keyboard
>>>>>> focus
>>>>>> is on the controls.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/4/2015 9:34 PM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>> Is he using any frameworks or libraries? So far as I understand it,
>>>>>>> that'll have quite an impact on the approach.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/4/15, Hadi Rezaee via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi guys!
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> There is a developer, who has developed a cross platform plugin,
>>>>>>>> (windows and mac), and now he wants to make it accessible to Screen
>>>>>>>> Readers. beside keyboard navigation, he wants to know how he could
>>>>>>>> expose elements and text to Screen Readers.
>>>>>>>> and, His app is in c++.
>>>>>>>> If you got any tips or suggestions, or any links. can you please
>>>>>>>> contribute, so i forward the mail to him?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you need more info, let me know.
>>>>>>>> Cheers
>>>>>>>> Hadi
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