[Rwp] [RWP] OSARA, an open-source ReaAccess replacement in development

[Scott Chesworth]

Jim, this sounds like a cool approach. I'm probably not a well-rounded
enough user to come up with a winner either, but I'll gladly test any
versions that might appear for consideration and keep track of the
overall popularity of each. Anyone who is going to submit a map for
consideration, it'd be helpful if you can start a fresh thread,
something like your name followed by keymap. For example, "Patrick
keymap". That's my nomination too btw :P


On 2/4/15, Jim Snowbarger via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> Yep,  he didn’t mean to cause a firestorm of controversy over key
> assignments.  But, oh, what he did.
>
> <grin>
>
> I don’t think I have ever defined a key map in my life that somebody didn’t
> like.  Often, it is lots of somebodies.  You really can’t win.
>
> But, while custimizeability can lead to improvement for the individual, it
> does cause problems when a group like this is trying to help somebody.
>
> What key map are, you. using today?
>
> But, I suspect our friendly developer has his hands full, just trying to get
> OSARA to work correctly, as it struggles to deal with the quirks of Reaper,
> and key maps are probably pretty far from his mind just now.  That is as it
> should be.
>
> While he is focusing on the  underlying mechanisms, maybe we can help with
> the human factors part.
>
> We could probably actually be helpful if we would find a way for this group
> to collaborate, and create a map for him.
>
> I’m scratching my head, trying to figure out a means of doing that
> effectively.
>
> My initial thought would be for one of our experts to lay out a straw man
> for consideration.  Then, once we have all reviewed that map, people could
> startwriting in about entries they didn’t like, and suggesting alternatives
> for that entry.  We would deal with it one contravercial entry at a time.
>
> The final decision should come from a power user, one who is grounded
> inpractical experience, with a need to be productive and efficient, , and
> knows what it is actually like to use this tool with such a map.
>
> Once he has heard all our complaints and suggestions, he decides, and that
> becomes the official setting for that entry.
>
> Once we’re done arguing about the nuances, that would become the official
> Peepers key map for Osara.  And, we need a convenient way for the novice to
> direct Osara to use the official map, so we can talk apples to apples when
> trying to help them.
>
>
>
> Does anybody volunteer to start the process?  I am definitely not a power
> user, and so declare myself to lack the necessary experience
>
>
>
>
>
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Jayson Smith
> via RWP
> Sent: Wednesday, February 04, 2015 6:05 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] [RWP] OSARA, an open-source ReaAccess replacement in
> development
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>
>
> Hi,
>
> I, too, would be in favor of single-key commands for the most common
> actions. Cake Talking for Sonar, which is for me the gold standard of DAW
> accessibility, uses single-key commands for the most common actions. Mute,
> solo, arm, etc. And it has a standard view where you use up/down to move
> between tracks, and left/right to move between parameters on a track such as
> name, mute, solo, arm, volume, pan, etc.
>
> Jayson
>
> On 2/4/2015 3:37 AM, Hrvoje Katić via RWP wrote:
>
> Well, personally I don't like default Reaper keymap. Some important actions
> are not assigned to any keystroke by default (move by beats and bars is a
> good example), and you have to hold control and alt while navigating tracks
> with up and down arrow, and also control+alt+arrow keys have a conflict with
> some graphics drivers where these keystrokes are assigned to rotate screen.
>
>
> LP,
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> 4.2.2015. u 0:44, Zack Benton via RWP je napisao/la:
>
> Agreed, I admit that the re access keymap is a bit harder to learn.
> On 2/3/2015 18:16, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>
>
>
> Anyway, I didn't mean to start a debate on what is "best"; everyone has
> their preferences. My point is that if even I (as the primary author) am
> using something different to the ReaAccess key map, I'd be very reluctant to
> include a ReaAccess based key map as the default. At the very least, that
> key map is harder to learn initially. This is why I haven't included a key
> map at all at this point. Perhaps we could include a ReaAccess key map as an
> option, but I'm reluctant to make it a "default".
>
> Jamie
>
> On 4/02/2015 7:19 AM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote:
>
>
>
> I have alien length fingers, so this might not work for everyone, but
> I've found non-separated F keys a lot easier since I started treating
> them as an extra row rather than counting along them. The experience
> is a little different from laptop to laptop, but with a wee bit of
> practice to get the muscle memory locked in I can comfortably hit
> mute, solo, arm, phase etc without leaving the touch typing position
> or counting. This is coming from someone who fought pretty hard
> against those keys being used for those functions in the first place,
> so I guess you could say I'm converted now.
>
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