[Rwp] [RWP] OSARA, an open-source ReaAccess replacement in development

Wed Feb 4 13:53:01 EST 2015

To be fair Chris, we've already had a few public mentions of donations
here from people that I'm fairly sure are serious enough to put their
hands in their pockets, plus in March I'm applying for a grant that'd
tide Jamie over for a while once the fun wears off. Granted, that's
not much, but it's a more encouraging response than ReaAccess got
financially. In any case, when it comes to CT, I find it ridiculous
that the accessibility package plus screen reader costs way more than
the DAW itself. That's before considering that Sonar itself could be
seen as overpriced unless you're actually gonna use the synths and
plugs it comes bundled with. I doubt you'll disagree that CT's
business model sucks the big one for blind people.

On 2/4/15, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> I hate this ghetto mentallity toard
> doing something skilled and
> doing a professional job.
>
>
> Cheap has a lot of meanings, but it often means of low quality, or takin
> what you can get.
> I run a business here,
> and I expect to have to pay for the cost of doing business, diferent for
> folks just doing a hobby,
> I know, but this sort of we want it all for nothing and poor blindy
> mentallity is why nothing ever gets done for reaper.
>
> I know us blind
> aren't rich folks, but most blindies I know will pay for what they want,
> they'll buy a 800 dollar iphone, but bitch about paying 10 bucks for a
> piece of software,
> now just think if everyone gave 20 bucks for reaper development for
> someone like Jamie
> to develop reaper, how far we'd get?
>
> You don't think Jamie worked for nothing when I was working with him for
> sonar development back a few years ago?
>
> Quiet a few benefited and piggy backed off that I imagine.
>
> So if you're not willing to put a few bucks in to what you do, then you
> have no business doing it, you're not serious about it.
>
> That's just how I feel about the whole thing,
> when you pay for something, you respect it.
>
>
> On 2/4/2015 6:13 AM, Hrvoje Katić via RWP wrote:
>> Yep, but CakeTalking costs too much as well as Sonar. Reaper is far
>> more cheap and accessibility solution is freeware.
>>
>>
>>
>> LP,
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>> 4.2.2015. u 13:04, Jayson Smith via RWP je napisao/la:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I, too, would be in favor of single-key commands for the most common
>>> actions. Cake Talking for Sonar, which is for me the gold standard of
>>> DAW accessibility, uses single-key commands for the most common
>>> actions. Mute, solo, arm, etc. And it has a standard view where you
>>> use up/down to move between tracks, and left/right to move between
>>> parameters on a track such as name, mute, solo, arm, volume, pan, etc.
>>>
>>> Jayson
>>>
>>> On 2/4/2015 3:37 AM, Hrvoje Katić via RWP wrote:
>>>> Well, personally I don't like default Reaper keymap. Some important
>>>> actions are not assigned to any keystroke by default (move by beats
>>>> and bars is a good example), and you have to hold control and alt
>>>> while navigating tracks with up and down arrow, and also
>>>> control+alt+arrow keys have a conflict with some graphics drivers
>>>> where these keystrokes are assigned to rotate screen.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> LP,
>>>> Hrvoje
>>>>
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>>>> 4.2.2015. u 0:44, Zack Benton via RWP je napisao/la:
>>>>> Agreed, I admit that the re access keymap is a bit harder to learn.
>>>>> On 2/3/2015 18:16, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> Anyway, I didn't mean to start a debate on what is "best";
>>>>>> everyone has their preferences. My point is that if even I (as the
>>>>>> primary author) am using something different to the ReaAccess key
>>>>>> map, I'd be very reluctant to include a ReaAccess based key map as
>>>>>> the default. At the very least, that key map is harder to learn
>>>>>> initially. This is why I haven't included a key map at all at this
>>>>>> point. Perhaps we could include a ReaAccess key map as an option,
>>>>>> but I'm reluctant to make it a "default".
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 4/02/2015 7:19 AM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>> I have alien length fingers, so this might not work for everyone,
>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>> I've found non-separated F keys a lot easier since I started
>>>>>>> treating
>>>>>>> them as an extra row rather than counting along them. The experience
>>>>>>> is a little different from laptop to laptop, but with a wee bit of
>>>>>>> practice to get the muscle memory locked in I can comfortably hit
>>>>>>> mute, solo, arm, phase etc without leaving the touch typing position
>>>>>>> or counting. This is coming from someone who fought pretty hard
>>>>>>> against those keys being used for those functions in the first
>>>>>>> place,
>>>>>>> so I guess you could say I'm converted now.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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