[Rwp] OSARA, an open-source ReaAccess replacement in development

[Patrick Perdue]

I use the tab thingy a lot, mostly just to adjust track volume/pan, or to look at where it is without changing it. If everything else in that disappeared, I don't think I would miss it too much, but I do like having those there.

> On Feb 4, 2015, at 7:49 AM, Scott Chesworth via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> 
> One thing to keep in mind is that the approach CakeTalking and JSonar
> both use loosely represents Sonars GUI. Bringing the same layout over
> to Reaper could probably be done, but it'd mean we were using a
> totally different layout to anyone who's using Reaper without a screen
> reader. I wouldn't be keen on this, mostly because there are people
> out there who use magnification alongside their screen reader, and
> they wouldn't know whether they were coming or going.
> 
> On a vaguely related note, does anyone here make heavy use of that
> virtual view thingy you get when you press tab with a track or item
> selected? Personally I haven't ever seen the point of it, but I've
> never been sure whether that's because I'm being reluctant to use an
> alternative interface.
> 
> On 2/4/15, Jayson Smith via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> You won't get any argument from me on those points. Not to mention that
>> CakeTalking requires probably the most expensive screen reader on the
>> market, and unless something recent has happened, hasn't been updated in
>> a while, because of major changes made to Sonar itself. However, for my
>> DAW, that is what I use, but I always welcome alternatives. When Reaper
>> and ReaAccess first came on the scene, I played with it, but really
>> couldn't get into it. Hopefully that will change.
>> Jayson
>> 
>> On 2/4/2015 7:13 AM, Hrvoje Katić via RWP wrote:
>>> Yep, but CakeTalking costs too much as well as Sonar. Reaper is far
>>> more cheap and accessibility solution is freeware.
>>> 
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>>> 4.2.2015. u 13:04, Jayson Smith via RWP je napisao/la:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> 
>>>> I, too, would be in favor of single-key commands for the most common
>>>> actions. Cake Talking for Sonar, which is for me the gold standard of
>>>> DAW accessibility, uses single-key commands for the most common
>>>> actions. Mute, solo, arm, etc. And it has a standard view where you
>>>> use up/down to move between tracks, and left/right to move between
>>>> parameters on a track such as name, mute, solo, arm, volume, pan, etc.
>>>> 
>>>> Jayson
>>>> 
>>>> On 2/4/2015 3:37 AM, Hrvoje Katić via RWP wrote:
>>>>> Well, personally I don't like default Reaper keymap. Some important
>>>>> actions are not assigned to any keystroke by default (move by beats
>>>>> and bars is a good example), and you have to hold control and alt
>>>>> while navigating tracks with up and down arrow, and also
>>>>> control+alt+arrow keys have a conflict with some graphics drivers
>>>>> where these keystrokes are assigned to rotate screen.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
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>>>>> 4.2.2015. u 0:44, Zack Benton via RWP je napisao/la:
>>>>>> Agreed, I admit that the re access keymap is a bit harder to learn.
>>>>>> On 2/3/2015 18:16, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>> Anyway, I didn't mean to start a debate on what is "best";
>>>>>>> everyone has their preferences. My point is that if even I (as the
>>>>>>> primary author) am using something different to the ReaAccess key
>>>>>>> map, I'd be very reluctant to include a ReaAccess based key map as
>>>>>>> the default. At the very least, that key map is harder to learn
>>>>>>> initially. This is why I haven't included a key map at all at this
>>>>>>> point. Perhaps we could include a ReaAccess key map as an option,
>>>>>>> but I'm reluctant to make it a "default".
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 4/02/2015 7:19 AM, Scott Chesworth via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>> I have alien length fingers, so this might not work for everyone,
>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>> I've found non-separated F keys a lot easier since I started
>>>>>>>> treating
>>>>>>>> them as an extra row rather than counting along them. The experience
>>>>>>>> is a little different from laptop to laptop, but with a wee bit of
>>>>>>>> practice to get the muscle memory locked in I can comfortably hit
>>>>>>>> mute, solo, arm, phase etc without leaving the touch typing position
>>>>>>>> or counting. This is coming from someone who fought pretty hard
>>>>>>>> against those keys being used for those functions in the first
>>>>>>>> place,
>>>>>>>> so I guess you could say I'm converted now.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
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