[Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess

Justin justinmacleod at hotmail.com
Wed Dec 23 23:51:56 EST 2015 

there are lots of SWS actions that cover every possible eventuality and 
only so many combinations you can use with the numpad numbers and the 
standard number row. Therefore, when you are dealing with actions that 
do something to a specific slot in an fx chain or a specific midi track, 
six presses could help - sextruple tap to get to slot six for example. 
It's not ideal I agree, but it certainly beats not having the keys to do 
it at all,

Justin

On 23/12/2015 23:29, Snowman wrote:
> Yep, I guess we all know what it is.  My comment was just that 6 
> presses gets a bit crazy, and less than intuitive, not to mention less 
> than handy when you are in a hurry.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8 at cogeco.ca>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:38 PM
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess
>
>
> I have no problem with multi-press for various
> things. I'm used to it with CakeTalking. F to
> hear what's in the fx bin on a track or bus, F
> twice quickly to go there. X to move to the first
> send, double X quickly to move to the second, that sort of thing.
>
>
> At 05:00 PM 12/23/2015, you wrote:
>> Your options just mushroom with multi-press and if you combine things 
>> intuitively I think it could really improve work-flow. Metering is 
>> the only thing keeping me from feeling completely at home with Osara. 
>> I'd submit a ticket if I new how to do it outlining my reasons. When 
>> I find a new action I want to map, I really do struggle to find a 
>> free key combination so I'm all for multi-press, Justin On 23/12/2015 
>> 18:57, Scott Chesworth wrote: > It does, thanks man. Metering is 
>> definitely something I need to talk > with Jamie about. In theory, 
>> OSARA can do multi presses, it's already > being used to read 
>> position information, but I can't honestly say that > I'm a huge fan 
>> of the concept personally. Then again, as things stand, > the keymap 
>> is getting to be quite a mind-boggler, so maybe I'll have > to suck 
>> it up. > > Scott > > On 12/23/15, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> 
>> wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm teaching someone who is particularly keen to 
>> use ReaEar but find the >> keymap difficult, understandably. However, 
>> there are two great things >> about ReaEar, which I do really like. 
>> What I want to do ideally is to >> see if I can create a keymap 
>> including macros that will enable Osara and >> ReaEar to function 
>> concurrently so I can have the best of both and offer >> it to others 
>> who are interested. This should be theoretically possible >> since 
>> one can enable and disable ReaEar. >> >> What I like about ReaEar is 
>> the way it handles metering, since it >> enables you to monitor a 
>> track and the master simultaneously and also to >> press j and k to 
>> get a very rough picture of the wave forms rms. I find >> this 
>> particularly useful when determining how to set a noise gate etc. >> 
>> >> Also, ReaEar incorporates customisable multi-press functionality, 
>> which, >> given that we're running out of keys, is brilliant. I have 
>> configured >> some keys with up to six presses, meaning that we can 
>> use the keyboard >> to do so much more. For example, I have it set so 
>> that one press of f >> works in the familiar way but a double press 
>> brings up the input effects >> chain dialogue etc. >> >> Hope this 
>> makes sense, >> >> Justin >> >> On 23/12/2015 18:16, Scott Chesworth 
>> wrote: >>> Hi Justin, >>> >>> Out of interest, what are you getting 
>> from ReaEar that's making the >>> work redesigning the keymap worth 
>> your time? I'm curious. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 12/23/15, Justin 
>> <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> It will behave in a similar 
>> way to Rea Access if you do some intense >>>> fiddling with the 
>> keymap. I am well underway with this and, once >>>> complete, will be 
>> happy to share a keymap to the list. If you use >>>> ReaEar's default 
>> keymap, it's so different as to require you to relearn >>>> Reaper's 
>> key strokes from the ground up and some are very >>>> 
>> counter-intuitive e.g. alt f4 doesn't close Reaper. >>>> >>>> Hope 
>> this helps, >>>> >>>> Justin >>>> >>>> On 23/12/2015 14:21, Scott 
>> Chesworth wrote: >>>>> Hi David, >>>>> >>>>> You can indeed use 
>> ReaEar with JAWS, but if you're looking for similar >>>>> behaviour 
>> to ReaAccess, OSARA will likely be more up your alley. >>>>> >>>>> 
>> You can grab a download, a keymap, and check the ReadMe at >>>>> 
>> http://www.github.com/nvaccess/osara >>>>> >>>>> Also worth noting 
>> that Jim Snowbarger has just started work on some >>>>> scripts that 
>> tidy up JAWS weirdness. They'll be merged with the rest >>>>> of the 
>> project soon, but for now, I've attached the most recent >>>>> 
>> version he posted to the list. >>>>> >>>>> Hth >>>>> >>>>> Scott 
>> >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/23/15, david hindmarch 
>> <david.hindmarch1 at ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>> Thanks, That was very 
>> helpful, but can you use reaEar with jaws and >>>>>> will >>>>>> it 
>> >>>>>> behave in a similar way to ReaAccess? >>>>>> >>>>>> From: 
>> Justin >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:14 PM >>>>>> To: 
>> Reapers Without Peepers >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Using envelope 
>> points with ReaAccess >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> you cannot 
>> automate using envelope points and Rea Access to my >>>>>> knowledge. 
>> >>>>>> you can only automate by using the various automation modes 
>> and >>>>>> manipulating >>>>>> the sliders for pan, volume or those 
>> in the effects parameter >>>>>> dialogues. >>>>>> Once you have 
>> recorded changes, there is no way to fine tune what you >>>>>> have 
>> >>>>>> done - you just have to do it over until you get it how you 
>> want it in >>>>>> one >>>>>> go if that makes sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> 
>> Both ReaEar and Osara provide means to edit envelope points, which is 
>> a >>>>>> far >>>>>> less hectic and nerve-wracking way to do 
>> automation, at least for me, >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps, >>>>>> 
>> >>>>>> Justin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23/12/2015 12:46, david 
>> hindmarch wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>      I am using ReaAccess with Reaper 
>> 4.71 and Jaws 13 in windows 7. >>>>>>      Can any one help me who 
>> has been able to use envelope points, I >>>>>> havenâ?Tt >>>>>> been 
>> very successful at automating an effects parameter as yet.  I >>>>>> 
>> would >>>>>> be >>>>>> very grateful for any guidance. >>>>>> >>>>>> 
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