[Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess

Snowman snowman at snowmanradio.com
Wed Dec 23 18:29:33 EST 2015


Yep, I guess we all know what it is.  My comment was just that 6 presses 
gets a bit crazy, and less than intuitive, not to mention less than handy 
when you are in a hurry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Chris Smart" <csmart8 at cogeco.ca>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:38 PM
Subject: Re: [Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess


I have no problem with multi-press for various
things. I'm used to it with CakeTalking. F to
hear what's in the fx bin on a track or bus, F
twice quickly to go there. X to move to the first
send, double X quickly to move to the second, that sort of thing.


At 05:00 PM 12/23/2015, you wrote:
>Your options just mushroom with multi-press and if you combine things 
>intuitively I think it could really improve work-flow. Metering is the only 
>thing keeping me from feeling completely at home with Osara. I'd submit a 
>ticket if I new how to do it outlining my reasons. When I find a new action 
>I want to map, I really do struggle to find a free key combination so I'm 
>all for multi-press, Justin On 23/12/2015 18:57, Scott Chesworth wrote: > 
>It does, thanks man. Metering is definitely something I need to talk > with 
>Jamie about. In theory, OSARA can do multi presses, it's already > being 
>used to read position information, but I can't honestly say that > I'm a 
>huge fan of the concept personally. Then again, as things stand, > the 
>keymap is getting to be quite a mind-boggler, so maybe I'll have > to suck 
>it up. > > Scott > > On 12/23/15, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote: 
> >> Hi, >> >> I'm teaching someone who is particularly keen to use ReaEar 
>but find the >> keymap difficult, understandably. However, there are two 
>great things >> about ReaEar, which I do really like. What I want to do 
>ideally is to >> see if I can create a keymap including macros that will 
>enable Osara and >> ReaEar to function concurrently so I can have the best 
>of both and offer >> it to others who are interested. This should be 
>theoretically possible >> since one can enable and disable ReaEar. >> >> 
>What I like about ReaEar is the way it handles metering, since it >> 
>enables you to monitor a track and the master simultaneously and also to >> 
>press j and k to get a very rough picture of the wave forms rms. I find >> 
>this particularly useful when determining how to set a noise gate etc. >> 
> >> Also, ReaEar incorporates customisable multi-press functionality, which, 
> >> given that we're running out of keys, is brilliant. I have configured >> 
>some keys with up to six presses, meaning that we can use the keyboard >> 
>to do so much more. For example, I have it set so that one press of f >> 
>works in the familiar way but a double press brings up the input effects >> 
>chain dialogue etc. >> >> Hope this makes sense, >> >> Justin >> >> On 
>23/12/2015 18:16, Scott Chesworth wrote: >>> Hi Justin, >>> >>> Out of 
>interest, what are you getting from ReaEar that's making the >>> work 
>redesigning the keymap worth your time? I'm curious. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> 
>On 12/23/15, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> It will behave 
>in a similar way to Rea Access if you do some intense >>>> fiddling with 
>the keymap. I am well underway with this and, once >>>> complete, will be 
>happy to share a keymap to the list. If you use >>>> ReaEar's default 
>keymap, it's so different as to require you to relearn >>>> Reaper's key 
>strokes from the ground up and some are very >>>> counter-intuitive e.g. 
>alt f4 doesn't close Reaper. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> >>>> Justin 
> >>>> >>>> On 23/12/2015 14:21, Scott Chesworth wrote: >>>>> Hi David, >>>>> 
> >>>>> You can indeed use ReaEar with JAWS, but if you're looking for 
>similar >>>>> behaviour to ReaAccess, OSARA will likely be more up your 
>alley. >>>>> >>>>> You can grab a download, a keymap, and check the ReadMe 
>at >>>>> http://www.github.com/nvaccess/osara >>>>> >>>>> Also worth noting 
>that Jim Snowbarger has just started work on some >>>>> scripts that tidy 
>up JAWS weirdness. They'll be merged with the rest >>>>> of the project 
>soon, but for now, I've attached the most recent >>>>> version he posted to 
>the list. >>>>> >>>>> Hth >>>>> >>>>> Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/23/15, 
>david hindmarch <david.hindmarch1 at ntlworld.com> wrote: >>>>>> Thanks, That 
>was very helpful, but can you use reaEar with jaws and >>>>>> will >>>>>> 
>it >>>>>> behave in a similar way to ReaAccess? >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Justin 
> >>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:14 PM >>>>>> To: Reapers 
>Without Peepers >>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Using envelope points with 
>ReaAccess >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> you cannot automate using 
>envelope points and Rea Access to my >>>>>> knowledge. >>>>>> you can only 
>automate by using the various automation modes and >>>>>> manipulating 
> >>>>>> the sliders for pan, volume or those in the effects parameter >>>>>> 
>dialogues. >>>>>> Once you have recorded changes, there is no way to fine 
>tune what you >>>>>> have >>>>>> done - you just have to do it over until 
>you get it how you want it in >>>>>> one >>>>>> go if that makes sense. 
> >>>>>> >>>>>> Both ReaEar and Osara provide means to edit envelope points, 
>which is a >>>>>> far >>>>>> less hectic and nerve-wracking way to do 
>automation, at least for me, >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this helps, >>>>>> >>>>>> 
>Justin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> On 23/12/2015 12:46, david hindmarch wrote: 
> >>>>>> >>>>>>      I am using ReaAccess with Reaper 4.71 and Jaws 13 in 
>windows 7. >>>>>>      Can any one help me who has been able to use 
>envelope points, I >>>>>> havenâ?Tt >>>>>> been very successful at 
>automating an effects parameter as yet.  I >>>>>> would >>>>>> be >>>>>> 
>very grateful for any guidance. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 
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