[Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess

Chris Smart csmart8 at cogeco.ca
Wed Dec 23 17:38:19 EST 2015 

I have no problem with multi-press for various 
things. I'm used to it with CakeTalking. F to 
hear what's in the fx bin on a track or bus, F 
twice quickly to go there. X to move to the first 
send, double X quickly to move to the second, that sort of thing.


At 05:00 PM 12/23/2015, you wrote:
>Your options just mushroom with multi-press and 
>if you combine things intuitively I think it 
>could really improve work-flow. Metering is the 
>only thing keeping me from feeling completely at 
>home with Osara. I'd submit a ticket if I new 
>how to do it outlining my reasons. When I find a 
>new action I want to map, I really do struggle 
>to find a free key combination so I'm all for 
>multi-press, Justin On 23/12/2015 18:57, Scott 
>Chesworth wrote: > It does, thanks man. Metering 
>is definitely something I need to talk > with 
>Jamie about. In theory, OSARA can do multi 
>presses, it's already > being used to read 
>position information, but I can't honestly say 
>that > I'm a huge fan of the concept personally. 
>Then again, as things stand, > the keymap is 
>getting to be quite a mind-boggler, so maybe 
>I'll have > to suck it up. > > Scott > > On 
>12/23/15, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> 
>wrote: >> Hi, >> >> I'm teaching someone who is 
>particularly keen to use ReaEar but find the >> 
>keymap difficult, understandably. However, there 
>are two great things >> about ReaEar, which I do 
>really like. What I want to do ideally is to >> 
>see if I can create a keymap including macros 
>that will enable Osara and >> ReaEar to function 
>concurrently so I can have the best of both and 
>offer >> it to others who are interested. This 
>should be theoretically possible >> since one 
>can enable and disable ReaEar. >> >> What I like 
>about ReaEar is the way it handles metering, 
>since it >> enables you to monitor a track and 
>the master simultaneously and also to >> press j 
>and k to get a very rough picture of the wave 
>forms rms. I find >> this particularly useful 
>when determining how to set a noise gate 
>etc. >> >> Also, ReaEar incorporates 
>customisable multi-press functionality, 
>which, >> given that we're running out of keys, 
>is brilliant. I have configured >> some keys 
>with up to six presses, meaning that we can use 
>the keyboard >> to do so much more. For example, 
>I have it set so that one press of f >> works in 
>the familiar way but a double press brings up 
>the input effects >> chain dialogue etc. >> >> 
>Hope this makes sense, >> >> Justin >> >> On 
>23/12/2015 18:16, Scott Chesworth wrote: >>> Hi 
>Justin, >>> >>> Out of interest, what are you 
>getting from ReaEar that's making the >>> work 
>redesigning the keymap worth your time? I'm 
>curious. >>> >>> Scott >>> >>> On 12/23/15, 
>Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote: >>>> 
>It will behave in a similar way to Rea Access if 
>you do some intense >>>> fiddling with the 
>keymap. I am well underway with this and, 
>once >>>> complete, will be happy to share a 
>keymap to the list. If you use >>>> ReaEar's 
>default keymap, it's so different as to require 
>you to relearn >>>> Reaper's key strokes from 
>the ground up and some are very >>>> 
>counter-intuitive e.g. alt f4 doesn't close 
>Reaper. >>>> >>>> Hope this helps, >>>> >>>> 
>Justin >>>> >>>> On 23/12/2015 14:21, Scott 
>Chesworth wrote: >>>>> Hi David, >>>>> >>>>> You 
>can indeed use ReaEar with JAWS, but if you're 
>looking for similar >>>>> behaviour to 
>ReaAccess, OSARA will likely be more up your 
>alley. >>>>> >>>>> You can grab a download, a 
>keymap, and check the ReadMe at >>>>> 
>http://www.github.com/nvaccess/osara >>>>> >>>>> 
>Also worth noting that Jim Snowbarger has just 
>started work on some >>>>> scripts that tidy up 
>JAWS weirdness. They'll be merged with the 
>rest >>>>> of the project soon, but for now, 
>I've attached the most recent >>>>> version he 
>posted to the list. >>>>> >>>>> Hth >>>>> >>>>> 
>Scott >>>>> >>>>> >>>>> On 12/23/15, david 
>hindmarch <david.hindmarch1 at ntlworld.com> 
>wrote: >>>>>> Thanks, That was very helpful, but 
>can you use reaEar with jaws and >>>>>> 
>will >>>>>> it >>>>>> behave in a similar way to 
>ReaAccess? >>>>>> >>>>>> From: Justin >>>>>> 
>Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:14 
>PM >>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers >>>>>> 
>Subject: Re: [Rwp] Using envelope points with 
>ReaAccess >>>>>> >>>>>> Hi, >>>>>> >>>>>> you 
>cannot automate using envelope points and Rea 
>Access to my >>>>>> knowledge. >>>>>> you can 
>only automate by using the various automation 
>modes and >>>>>> manipulating >>>>>> the sliders 
>for pan, volume or those in the effects 
>parameter >>>>>> dialogues. >>>>>> Once you have 
>recorded changes, there is no way to fine tune 
>what you >>>>>> have >>>>>> done - you just have 
>to do it over until you get it how you want it 
>in >>>>>> one >>>>>> go if that makes 
>sense. >>>>>> >>>>>> Both ReaEar and Osara 
>provide means to edit envelope points, which is 
>a >>>>>> far >>>>>> less hectic and 
>nerve-wracking way to do automation, at least 
>for me, >>>>>> >>>>>> Hope this 
>helps, >>>>>> >>>>>> Justin >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 
>On 23/12/2015 12:46, david hindmarch 
>wrote: >>>>>> >>>>>>      I am using ReaAccess 
>with Reaper 4.71 and Jaws 13 in windows 
>7. >>>>>>      Can any one help me who has been 
>able to use envelope points, I >>>>>> 
>haven’t >>>>>> been very successful at 
>automating an effects parameter as 
>yet.  I >>>>>> would >>>>>> be >>>>>> very 
>grateful for any 
>guidance. >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> >>>>>> 
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