[Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess

Wed Dec 23 17:28:20 EST 2015

Curous,  do you actually have a way of mapping a multiple key press to an 
action?
Are you doing that with jaws script?  If so, I would love to know how you 
got jaws script to play an an action that isn't mapped to a hotkey.  That 
could be very useful.

Multiples can make sense in some cases.  But, in my way of looking at it, 
anything more than 3 presses gets a bit crazy, and not efficient.
I don't know how many times with situations like that, that I have wacked 6, 
but accidentally got only 5, and had to start over.  It's easy to do when 
you are in a hurry.

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Justin" <justinmacleod at hotmail.com>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 4:00 PM
Subject: Re: [Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess

> Your options just mushroom with multi-press and if you combine things 
> intuitively I think it could really improve work-flow.
> Metering is the only thing keeping me from feeling completely at home with 
> Osara. I'd submit a ticket if I new how to do it outlining my reasons.
>
> When I find a new action I want to map, I really do struggle to find a 
> free key combination so I'm all for multi-press,
>
> Justin
>
> On 23/12/2015 18:57, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> It does, thanks man. Metering is definitely something I need to talk
>> with Jamie about. In theory, OSARA can do multi presses, it's already
>> being used to read position information, but I can't honestly say that
>> I'm a huge fan of the concept personally. Then again, as things stand,
>> the keymap is getting to be quite a mind-boggler, so maybe I'll have
>> to suck it up.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 12/23/15, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> I'm teaching someone who is particularly keen to use ReaEar but find the
>>> keymap difficult, understandably. However, there are two great things
>>> about ReaEar, which I do really like. What I want to do ideally is to
>>> see if I can create a keymap including macros that will enable Osara and
>>> ReaEar to function concurrently so I can have the best of both and offer
>>> it to others who are interested. This should be theoretically possible
>>> since one can enable and disable ReaEar.
>>>
>>> What I like about ReaEar is the way it handles metering, since it
>>> enables you to monitor a track and the master simultaneously and also to
>>> press j and k to get a very rough picture of the wave forms rms. I find
>>> this particularly useful when determining how to set a noise gate etc.
>>>
>>> Also, ReaEar incorporates customisable multi-press functionality, which,
>>> given that we're running out of keys, is brilliant. I have configured
>>> some keys with up to six presses, meaning that we can use the keyboard
>>> to do so much more. For example, I have it set so that one press of f
>>> works in the familiar way but a double press brings up the input effects
>>> chain dialogue etc.
>>>
>>> Hope this makes sense,
>>>
>>> Justin
>>>
>>> On 23/12/2015 18:16, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>> Hi Justin,
>>>>
>>>> Out of interest, what are you getting from ReaEar that's making the
>>>> work redesigning the keymap worth your time? I'm curious.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On 12/23/15, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> It will behave in a similar way to Rea Access if you do some intense
>>>>> fiddling with the keymap. I am well underway with this and, once
>>>>> complete, will be happy to share a keymap to the list. If you use
>>>>> ReaEar's default keymap, it's so different as to require you to 
>>>>> relearn
>>>>> Reaper's key strokes from the ground up and some are very
>>>>> counter-intuitive e.g. alt f4 doesn't close Reaper.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>
>>>>> Justin
>>>>>
>>>>> On 23/12/2015 14:21, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can indeed use ReaEar with JAWS, but if you're looking for 
>>>>>> similar
>>>>>> behaviour to ReaAccess, OSARA will likely be more up your alley.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> You can grab a download, a keymap, and check the ReadMe at
>>>>>> http://www.github.com/nvaccess/osara
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Also worth noting that Jim Snowbarger has just started work on some
>>>>>> scripts that tidy up JAWS weirdness. They'll be merged with the rest
>>>>>> of the project soon, but for now, I've attached the most recent
>>>>>> version he posted to the list.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hth
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 12/23/15, david hindmarch <david.hindmarch1 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Thanks, That was very helpful, but can you use reaEar with jaws and
>>>>>>> will
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> behave in a similar way to ReaAccess?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> From: Justin
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:14 PM
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> you cannot automate using envelope points and Rea Access to my
>>>>>>> knowledge.
>>>>>>> you can only automate by using the various automation modes and
>>>>>>> manipulating
>>>>>>> the sliders for pan, volume or those in the effects parameter
>>>>>>> dialogues.
>>>>>>> Once you have recorded changes, there is no way to fine tune what 
>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>> done - you just have to do it over until you get it how you want it 
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>> go if that makes sense.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Both ReaEar and Osara provide means to edit envelope points, which 
>>>>>>> is a
>>>>>>> far
>>>>>>> less hectic and nerve-wracking way to do automation, at least for 
>>>>>>> me,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 23/12/2015 12:46, david hindmarch wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>      I am using ReaAccess with Reaper 4.71 and Jaws 13 in windows 7.
>>>>>>>      Can any one help me who has been able to use envelope points, I
>>>>>>> haven’t
>>>>>>> been very successful at automating an effects parameter as yet.  I
>>>>>>> would
>>>>>>> be
>>>>>>> very grateful for any guidance.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
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