[Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess

[Justin]

Your options just mushroom with multi-press and if you combine things 
intuitively I think it could really improve work-flow.
Metering is the only thing keeping me from feeling completely at home 
with Osara. I'd submit a ticket if I new how to do it outlining my reasons.

When I find a new action I want to map, I really do struggle to find a 
free key combination so I'm all for multi-press,

Justin

On 23/12/2015 18:57, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> It does, thanks man. Metering is definitely something I need to talk
> with Jamie about. In theory, OSARA can do multi presses, it's already
> being used to read position information, but I can't honestly say that
> I'm a huge fan of the concept personally. Then again, as things stand,
> the keymap is getting to be quite a mind-boggler, so maybe I'll have
> to suck it up.
>
> Scott
>
> On 12/23/15, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> I'm teaching someone who is particularly keen to use ReaEar but find the
>> keymap difficult, understandably. However, there are two great things
>> about ReaEar, which I do really like. What I want to do ideally is to
>> see if I can create a keymap including macros that will enable Osara and
>> ReaEar to function concurrently so I can have the best of both and offer
>> it to others who are interested. This should be theoretically possible
>> since one can enable and disable ReaEar.
>>
>> What I like about ReaEar is the way it handles metering, since it
>> enables you to monitor a track and the master simultaneously and also to
>> press j and k to get a very rough picture of the wave forms rms. I find
>> this particularly useful when determining how to set a noise gate etc.
>>
>> Also, ReaEar incorporates customisable multi-press functionality, which,
>> given that we're running out of keys, is brilliant. I have configured
>> some keys with up to six presses, meaning that we can use the keyboard
>> to do so much more. For example, I have it set so that one press of f
>> works in the familiar way but a double press brings up the input effects
>> chain dialogue etc.
>>
>> Hope this makes sense,
>>
>> Justin
>>
>> On 23/12/2015 18:16, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>> Hi Justin,
>>>
>>> Out of interest, what are you getting from ReaEar that's making the
>>> work redesigning the keymap worth your time? I'm curious.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 12/23/15, Justin <justinmacleod at hotmail.com> wrote:
>>>> It will behave in a similar way to Rea Access if you do some intense
>>>> fiddling with the keymap. I am well underway with this and, once
>>>> complete, will be happy to share a keymap to the list. If you use
>>>> ReaEar's default keymap, it's so different as to require you to relearn
>>>> Reaper's key strokes from the ground up and some are very
>>>> counter-intuitive e.g. alt f4 doesn't close Reaper.
>>>>
>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>
>>>> Justin
>>>>
>>>> On 23/12/2015 14:21, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>> Hi David,
>>>>>
>>>>> You can indeed use ReaEar with JAWS, but if you're looking for similar
>>>>> behaviour to ReaAccess, OSARA will likely be more up your alley.
>>>>>
>>>>> You can grab a download, a keymap, and check the ReadMe at
>>>>> http://www.github.com/nvaccess/osara
>>>>>
>>>>> Also worth noting that Jim Snowbarger has just started work on some
>>>>> scripts that tidy up JAWS weirdness. They'll be merged with the rest
>>>>> of the project soon, but for now, I've attached the most recent
>>>>> version he posted to the list.
>>>>>
>>>>> Hth
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 12/23/15, david hindmarch <david.hindmarch1 at ntlworld.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks, That was very helpful, but can you use reaEar with jaws and
>>>>>> will
>>>>>> it
>>>>>> behave in a similar way to ReaAccess?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> From: Justin
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, December 23, 2015 1:14 PM
>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] Using envelope points with ReaAccess
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> you cannot automate using envelope points and Rea Access to my
>>>>>> knowledge.
>>>>>> you can only automate by using the various automation modes and
>>>>>> manipulating
>>>>>> the sliders for pan, volume or those in the effects parameter
>>>>>> dialogues.
>>>>>> Once you have recorded changes, there is no way to fine tune what you
>>>>>> have
>>>>>> done - you just have to do it over until you get it how you want it in
>>>>>> one
>>>>>> go if that makes sense.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Both ReaEar and Osara provide means to edit envelope points, which is a
>>>>>> far
>>>>>> less hectic and nerve-wracking way to do automation, at least for me,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Hope this helps,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Justin
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 23/12/2015 12:46, david hindmarch wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>      I am using ReaAccess with Reaper 4.71 and Jaws 13 in windows 7.
>>>>>>      Can any one help me who has been able to use envelope points, I
>>>>>> haven’t
>>>>>> been very successful at automating an effects parameter as yet.  I
>>>>>> would
>>>>>> be
>>>>>> very grateful for any guidance.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
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