[Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!

Victor Tsaran vtsaran at gmail.com
Mon Aug 31 09:33:22 EDT 2015


Sorry for the delay. I'll try to check into this later today. This may be a keyboard conflict.

Sent from a device


> On Aug 27, 2015, at 10:55 AM, Clarence Griffin via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> 
> Ok, that should be 5.1 or something like that.
> Thanks.
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of onlineeagle
> via RWP
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 1:54 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Cc: onlineeagle
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!
> 
> I am using it with the latest version of Reaper.
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 18:48, Clarence Griffin via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> This is for reaper 5 on the mac. Correct?
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of 
>> onlineeagle via RWP
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:48 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Cc: onlineeagle
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!
>> 
>> https://reaperaccess.com/notes-for-blind-users/
>> Try it out and let us know how it works. Everything but control 
>> command space seems to be working for me. Also, haven't tried thi 
>> items shortcut yet. I'm still in the early stages of playing with it.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 16:40, Jim Noseworthy via RWP 
>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hello:
>>> 
>>> Where does one download "Reaper Access for Mac"?
>>> 
>>> Thanks all over the place.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> -----Original Message-----
>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Victor 
>>> Tsaran via RWP
>>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:39 AM
>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> Cc: Victor Tsaran <vtsaran at gmail.com>
>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!
>>> 
>>> It's actually control command space.
>>> Enjoy!
>>> 
>>> 
>>> Sent from a device
>>> 
>>> 
>>>>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 4:43 AM, onlineeagle via RWP 
>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Hi Vic and others. I've finally got a bit of time to take a look at 
>>>> Reaper
>>> on the Mac once again. I've downloaded the Reaper Access for Mac, and 
>>> I can do everything advertised apart from interact with an option 
>>> using control option space. So control option left and right 
>>> navigates me through the track elements, such as mute and solo, but 
>>> control option space does not do anything. The shortcut to move to 
>>> different tracks works perfectly, the meters seem to read fine, and 
>>> skipping beats and bars works fine to. Any ideas?
>>>> 
>>>> Also, I'd be happy to donate to this project if that will be of help.
>>>> 
>>>> On the Protools list, there is talk of people getting good access to
>>> inaccessible elements using Keyboard Maestro. I don't know whether 
>>> using this could help you get even more functionality.
>>>> 
>>>> Thanks for working on this.  
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from zmy iPhone
>>>> 
>>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>> 
>>>>> On 11 Apr 2015, at 05:16, Victor Tsaran via RWP 
>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sure, feel free to post.
>>>>> Once I have something solid, I would like to put it on GIthub, but 
>>>>> until then this will do. Better yet, if Jamie's code overtakes 
>>>>> mine, then we will have one plugin that works on two major 
>>>>> platforms. ;)
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> *** *** ***
>>>>> Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/vick08
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 3:14 PM, theoreomonster--- via RWP
>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> And now it works, somehow in the initial notes you sent me it just 
>>>>>> said
>>> press j and k not CMD+ctrl+j&K. Would it be possible to add speaking 
>>> of track states? Like whether they are a folder, a track or the last 
>>> tracking a folder, and the number of iTems on the  track?
>>>>>> Those are probably my only really big Got yams at the immediate 
>>>>>> moment
>>> especially if meters are working. 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Also would you like me to post your plug in  on the reaper access 
>>>>>> site
>>> with your notes that way people can grab it easily with out you 
>>> needing to post your DB link?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Thanks Again.
>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Victor Tsaran via RWP
>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> What feedback do you get when you press command control j and k?
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Sent from a Mobile device
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 5:28 AM, theoreomonster--- via RWP
>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> If anyone has a play with Vic's Plug in, let me know if you were 
>>>>>>>> able
>>> to read meters. It's the one thing i never got working.
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 11:45 PM, Victor Tsaran via RWP
>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Anyone here attempted to install my plugin and try it with 
>>>>>>>>> their
>>> Reaper installation?
>>>>>>>>> Just curious...
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> *** *** ***
>>>>>>>>> Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/vick08
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Scott Chesworth via RWP
>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Definitely take what Vic's done so far for a spin if you're of 
>>>>>>>>>> a curious mind, it's bear bones, but saved a lot of VO-ing 
>>>>>>>>>> around when I tried it.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> FWIW, for anyone who doesn't know, I recently submitted an 
>>>>>>>>>> application that'd secure some funding for the more labour 
>>>>>>>>>> intensive less fun areas of OSARA development. No news on 
>>>>>>>>>> whether my bid has been accepted just yet, but one of the 
>>>>>>>>>> things that was included based on some consultation with Jamie 
>>>>>>>>>> is some hours to investigate what'd be involved in a Mac port 
>>>>>>>>>> of the project. There's a further bunch of hours blocked and 
>>>>>>>>>> accounted for if that research goes well. Please understand 
>>>>>>>>>> that it's mostly speculation at this stage, and the Mac stuff 
>>>>>>>>>> doesn't even begin to come into play until next year on the 
>>>>>>>>>> roadmap we cooked up, so this isn't a commitment that OSARA 
>>>>>>>>>> will be cross platform next week, it's merely someone saying 
>>>>>>>>>> that there's interest that
>>> will be explored if the money arrives.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On 4/5/15, Victor Tsaran via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Christopher.
>>>>>>>>>>> While I agree that by default Reaper seems to be more 
>>>>>>>>>>> accessible on the Mac when you open it up, the current flow 
>>>>>>>>>>> is very inefficient for a serious production work where speed 
>>>>>>>>>>> and time is important. THis is why both Windows and Mac 
>>>>>>>>>>> version do need enhancements in order to to be comparable to 
>>>>>>>>>>> something like
>>> Sonar with either JSonar or Caketalking scripts.
>>>>>>>>>>> I started writing a Mac OS plugin for Reaper, but just can't 
>>>>>>>>>>> find the time to jumpstart this and move the code from the 
>>>>>>>>>>> "noodle" state into something I would not be ashamed to share 
>>>>>>>>>>> with the public! <grin> If you wish, I would be happy to 
>>>>>>>>>>> share with yu the  Dropbox where you can download and try out 
>>>>>>>>>>> the
>> plugin.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> *** *** ***
>>>>>>>>>>> Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/vick08
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via RWP 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie, in answer to your question, I just opened it up, hit
>>>>>>>>>>>> command+T to create a track, then went into the track strip,
>>>>>>>>>>>> found the volume,
>>>>>>>>>>>> vo+shift+down arrowed to interact with it, and then did a
>>>>>>>>>>>> vo+shift+vo+up
>>> arrow.
>>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  I was able to increment and decrement the slider with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no issue at all.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> The only querk so far I have seen is when you get to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> text box for the track name, you can't just start typing the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> name into it.  Routing the mouse then doing vo+shift+space 
>>>>>>>>>>>> to literally
>>> click doesn't work either.
>>>>>>>>>>>> The trick is, when you get to the text field, hit vo+space.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Then, you'll hear Voiceover say, "Double click name."  Then, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you type the name of the track, then hit return to apply the
>>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Aside this though, I haven't yet found anything not to work.  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Granted, I've not really opened much of anything in it, or 
>>>>>>>>>>>> played much yet with it on the mac side, but from what very 
>>>>>>>>>>>> little I can see on the outer core of things, it looks 
>>>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>>> doable!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, do we actually have another e-mail list for the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> discussion of Reaper with Voiceover on the Mac?  If we 
>>>>>>>>>>>> don't, and you all are at all interested, I'd be more! than 
>>>>>>>>>>>> willing to set up a list for this purpose through my hosting
> provider.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> You guys just let me know if you'd like me to proceed with 
>>>>>>>>>>>> setting
>>> it up.
>>>>>>>>>>>> It probably wouldn't take me but about 30 minutes at most to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> create the list, and get it all configured on the back admin 
>>>>>>>>>>>> end, so it's totally totally conveniently something I can 
>>>>>>>>>>>> do, and
>>> am extremely willing to do.
>>>>>>>>>>>> You all just let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>>> From: James Teh via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:17 PM
>>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Out of interest, can you actually adjust the sliders for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> volume, etc. in, say, the track view? I ask because I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> realised the other day that the base accessibility code for 
>>>>>>>>>>>> the UI toolkit REAPER uses for these controls is actually 
>>>>>>>>>>>> open source. I took a look at the code and, like on Windows, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't see any code for making adjusting these controls 
>>>>>>>>>>>> accessible, even though it does indeed make the values readible.
>>> Of course, I could just be missing something, hence my curiosity...
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from a mobile device
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Apr 2015, at 10:47 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland via 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys, I'm going to keep this e-mail, unlike my normal 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> nature, very terse, and incredibly short/sweet to the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> point, as it probably won't effect a lot of you.  It's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reaper related yes, but only somewhat indirectly.  I think 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though you should read this.  If it's over 2 paragraphs 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> long, I'll vbe shocked, so just go ahead and read it.  I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> think you'll be
>> glad that you did.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as a lot of you know perhaps, I am both a Windows as 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> well as a mac user.  Well, I decided today, what the heck, 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> let me install Reaper on my Yosemite machine and check it's 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility out, if there be any at all.  I must say that 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I was
>>> not very hopeful.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Folks?  I? am! blown away!  It is flawless!  I have yet to 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> find a screen that doesn't read!  All the buttons are 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> seeming to be completely properly labeled, all the 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> preferences screens read correctly, even the actions screen 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>> totally!
>>> totally! accessible.  These developers really! really!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> deserve a huge! amount of credit.  This is wonderful!  
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Cockos just gained even more! respect from me.  Not that I 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't have it before, but now, I really! have very high 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> hopes for this DAW!  I know one thing:  I definitely! am 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mailing their support and congratulating them on such a 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> fantastically accessible recording sollution.  This is
>> absolutely awesome!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for letting me share my utter joy!
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris.
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