[Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!

onlineeagle onlineeagle at googlemail.com
Thu Aug 27 13:53:45 EDT 2015 

I am using it with the latest version of Reaper.

Sent from my iPhone

> On 27 Aug 2015, at 18:48, Clarence Griffin via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> 
> This is for reaper 5 on the mac. Correct?
> 
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of onlineeagle
> via RWP
> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 11:48 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Cc: onlineeagle
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!
> 
> https://reaperaccess.com/notes-for-blind-users/
> Try it out and let us know how it works. Everything but control command
> space seems to be working for me. Also, haven't tried thi items shortcut
> yet. I'm still in the early stages of playing with it. 
> 
> Sent from my iPhone
> 
>>> On 27 Aug 2015, at 16:40, Jim Noseworthy via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> wrote:
>> 
>> Hello:
>> 
>> Where does one download "Reaper Access for Mac"?
>> 
>> Thanks all over the place.
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Victor 
>> Tsaran via RWP
>> Sent: Thursday, August 27, 2015 9:39 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Cc: Victor Tsaran <vtsaran at gmail.com>
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!
>> 
>> It's actually control command space.
>> Enjoy!
>> 
>> 
>> Sent from a device
>> 
>> 
>>>> On Aug 27, 2015, at 4:43 AM, onlineeagle via RWP 
>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>>> wrote:
>>> 
>>> Hi Vic and others. I've finally got a bit of time to take a look at 
>>> Reaper
>> on the Mac once again. I've downloaded the Reaper Access for Mac, and 
>> I can do everything advertised apart from interact with an option 
>> using control option space. So control option left and right navigates 
>> me through the track elements, such as mute and solo, but control 
>> option space does not do anything. The shortcut to move to different 
>> tracks works perfectly, the meters seem to read fine, and skipping 
>> beats and bars works fine to. Any ideas?
>>> 
>>> Also, I'd be happy to donate to this project if that will be of help.
>>> 
>>> On the Protools list, there is talk of people getting good access to
>> inaccessible elements using Keyboard Maestro. I don't know whether 
>> using this could help you get even more functionality.
>>> 
>>> Thanks for working on this.  
>>> 
>>> Sent from zmy iPhone
>>> 
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>> 
>>>> On 11 Apr 2015, at 05:16, Victor Tsaran via RWP 
>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Sure, feel free to post.
>>>> Once I have something solid, I would like to put it on GIthub, but 
>>>> until then this will do. Better yet, if Jamie's code overtakes mine, 
>>>> then we will have one plugin that works on two major platforms. ;)
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> *** *** ***
>>>> Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/vick08
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 3:14 PM, theoreomonster--- via RWP
>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>> 
>>>>> And now it works, somehow in the initial notes you sent me it just 
>>>>> said
>> press j and k not CMD+ctrl+j&K. Would it be possible to add speaking 
>> of track states? Like whether they are a folder, a track or the last 
>> tracking a folder, and the number of iTems on the  track?
>>>>> Those are probably my only really big Got yams at the immediate 
>>>>> moment
>> especially if meters are working. 
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also would you like me to post your plug in  on the reaper access 
>>>>> site
>> with your notes that way people can grab it easily with out you 
>> needing to post your DB link?
>>>>> 
>>>>> Thanks Again.
>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 9:25 AM, Victor Tsaran via RWP
>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> What feedback do you get when you press command control j and k?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Sent from a Mobile device
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On Apr 10, 2015, at 5:28 AM, theoreomonster--- via RWP
>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> If anyone has a play with Vic's Plug in, let me know if you were 
>>>>>>> able
>> to read meters. It's the one thing i never got working.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> On Apr 9, 2015, at 11:45 PM, Victor Tsaran via RWP
>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> Anyone here attempted to install my plugin and try it with their
>> Reaper installation?
>>>>>>>> Just curious...
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> *** *** ***
>>>>>>>> Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/vick08
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 5, 2015, at 2:10 PM, Scott Chesworth via RWP
>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Definitely take what Vic's done so far for a spin if you're of 
>>>>>>>>> a curious mind, it's bear bones, but saved a lot of VO-ing 
>>>>>>>>> around when I tried it.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> FWIW, for anyone who doesn't know, I recently submitted an 
>>>>>>>>> application that'd secure some funding for the more labour 
>>>>>>>>> intensive less fun areas of OSARA development. No news on 
>>>>>>>>> whether my bid has been accepted just yet, but one of the 
>>>>>>>>> things that was included based on some consultation with Jamie 
>>>>>>>>> is some hours to investigate what'd be involved in a Mac port 
>>>>>>>>> of the project. There's a further bunch of hours blocked and 
>>>>>>>>> accounted for if that research goes well. Please understand 
>>>>>>>>> that it's mostly speculation at this stage, and the Mac stuff 
>>>>>>>>> doesn't even begin to come into play until next year on the 
>>>>>>>>> roadmap we cooked up, so this isn't a commitment that OSARA 
>>>>>>>>> will be cross platform next week, it's merely someone saying 
>>>>>>>>> that there's interest that
>> will be explored if the money arrives.
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> On 4/5/15, Victor Tsaran via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hi Christopher.
>>>>>>>>>> While I agree that by default Reaper seems to be more 
>>>>>>>>>> accessible on the Mac when you open it up, the current flow is 
>>>>>>>>>> very inefficient for a serious production work where speed and 
>>>>>>>>>> time is important. THis is why both Windows and Mac version do 
>>>>>>>>>> need enhancements in order to to be comparable to something 
>>>>>>>>>> like
>> Sonar with either JSonar or Caketalking scripts.
>>>>>>>>>> I started writing a Mac OS plugin for Reaper, but just can't 
>>>>>>>>>> find the time to jumpstart this and move the code from the 
>>>>>>>>>> "noodle" state into something I would not be ashamed to share 
>>>>>>>>>> with the public! <grin> If you wish, I would be happy to share 
>>>>>>>>>> with yu the  Dropbox where you can download and try out the
> plugin.
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> Best,
>>>>>>>>>> Victor
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> *** *** ***
>>>>>>>>>> Find me on Twitter http://www.twitter.com/vick08
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 4, 2015, at 6:51 PM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via RWP 
>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie, in answer to your question, I just opened it up, hit
>>>>>>>>>>> command+T to create a track, then went into the track strip,
>>>>>>>>>>> found the volume,
>>>>>>>>>>> vo+shift+down arrowed to interact with it, and then did a 
>>>>>>>>>>> vo+shift+vo+up
>> arrow.
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes.  I was able to increment and decrement the slider with 
>>>>>>>>>>> absolutely no issue at all.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> The only querk so far I have seen is when you get to the text 
>>>>>>>>>>> box for the track name, you can't just start typing the name 
>>>>>>>>>>> into it.  Routing the mouse then doing vo+shift+space to 
>>>>>>>>>>> literally
>> click doesn't work either.
>>>>>>>>>>> The trick is, when you get to the text field, hit vo+space.  
>>>>>>>>>>> Then, you'll hear Voiceover say, "Double click name."  Then, 
>>>>>>>>>>> you type the name of the track, then hit return to apply the
>> change.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Aside this though, I haven't yet found anything not to work.  
>>>>>>>>>>> Granted, I've not really opened much of anything in it, or 
>>>>>>>>>>> played much yet with it on the mac side, but from what very 
>>>>>>>>>>> little I can see on the outer core of things, it looks 
>>>>>>>>>>> extremely
>> doable!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Hey, do we actually have another e-mail list for the 
>>>>>>>>>>> discussion of Reaper with Voiceover on the Mac?  If we don't, 
>>>>>>>>>>> and you all are at all interested, I'd be more! than willing 
>>>>>>>>>>> to set up a list for this purpose through my hosting provider.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> You guys just let me know if you'd like me to proceed with 
>>>>>>>>>>> setting
>> it up.
>>>>>>>>>>> It probably wouldn't take me but about 30 minutes at most to 
>>>>>>>>>>> create the list, and get it all configured on the back admin 
>>>>>>>>>>> end, so it's totally totally conveniently something I can do, 
>>>>>>>>>>> and
>> am extremely willing to do.
>>>>>>>>>>> You all just let me know.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Chris.
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>>>>>> From: James Teh via RWP
>>>>>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Saturday, April 04, 2015 9:17 PM
>>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Out of interest, can you actually adjust the sliders for 
>>>>>>>>>>> volume, etc. in, say, the track view? I ask because I 
>>>>>>>>>>> realised the other day that the base accessibility code for 
>>>>>>>>>>> the UI toolkit REAPER uses for these controls is actually 
>>>>>>>>>>> open source. I took a look at the code and, like on Windows, 
>>>>>>>>>>> I couldn't see any code for making adjusting these controls 
>>>>>>>>>>> accessible, even though it does indeed make the values readible.
>> Of course, I could just be missing something, hence my curiosity...
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Jamie
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>> Sent from a mobile device
>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 5 Apr 2015, at 10:47 am, Christopher-Mark Gilland via RWP 
>>>>>>>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Guys, I'm going to keep this e-mail, unlike my normal 
>>>>>>>>>>>> nature, very terse, and incredibly short/sweet to the point, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> as it probably won't effect a lot of you.  It's Reaper 
>>>>>>>>>>>> related yes, but only somewhat indirectly.  I think though 
>>>>>>>>>>>> you should read this.  If it's over 2 paragraphs long, I'll 
>>>>>>>>>>>> vbe shocked, so just go ahead and read it.  I think you'll be
> glad that you did.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> So, as a lot of you know perhaps, I am both a Windows as 
>>>>>>>>>>>> well as a mac user.  Well, I decided today, what the heck, 
>>>>>>>>>>>> let me install Reaper on my Yosemite machine and check it's 
>>>>>>>>>>>> accessibility out, if there be any at all.  I must say that 
>>>>>>>>>>>> I was
>> not very hopeful.
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Folks?  I? am! blown away!  It is flawless!  I have yet to 
>>>>>>>>>>>> find a screen that doesn't read!  All the buttons are 
>>>>>>>>>>>> seeming to be completely properly labeled, all the 
>>>>>>>>>>>> preferences screens read correctly, even the actions screen is
> totally!
>> totally! accessible.  These developers really! really!
>>>>>>>>>>>> deserve a huge! amount of credit.  This is wonderful!  
>>>>>>>>>>>> Cockos just gained even more! respect from me.  Not that I 
>>>>>>>>>>>> didn't have it before, but now, I really! have very high 
>>>>>>>>>>>> hopes for this DAW!  I know one thing:  I definitely! am 
>>>>>>>>>>>> e-mailing their support and congratulating them on such a 
>>>>>>>>>>>> fantastically accessible recording sollution.  This is
> absolutely awesome!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for letting me share my utter joy!
>>>>>>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>>>>>> Chris.
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