[Rwp] With OSARA, how to manage volume / pan of items?

theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com theoreomonster at reaperaccess.com
Mon Apr 20 17:10:20 EDT 2015 

What i do is not move by item but move either by measure  or beat, or use CTRL+J to jump to a specific time, Measure/beat, Marker etc or use the left and right arrows to scrub if i need to fine tune  the location, then set a start and end point and simply select between those start and end points.  I find this workflow usually leads to less confusion about whats  selected. I created custom actions to speed the time selections in this manner and also to play selections.
> On Apr 20, 2015, at 5:04 PM, Alex H. via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> 
> You can use escape to unselect items/tracks etc, but currently in
> OSARA there's no way to report selected stuff.
> 
> Alex
> 
> On 4/20/15, Jim Snowbarger via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>> Jamie: thanks for spelling this out.  This is a helpful thing to get on top
>> of.  It's actually quite simple.
>> 
>> List: So, in his example here,  an item that is  an entire verse, with one
>> badd phrase, you would actually need to split the original item into 3
>> items, do a split just prior to the offending phrase, and a second split
>> just after it.  Now, you have 3 items, with the middle item being a small
>> passage that contains the mistake.  Now, just select that small item,
>> record
>> new takes for that one alone,  and muck with it's takes.   If you have
>> things selected correctly, and the record option set properly, your punch
>> ins will affect only that small middle item.
>> 
>> 
>> The key thing here for me is, making sure no item is selected, or
>> determining which one is selected.  I have always found that confusing.
>> Maybe I'm not doing it right.  But, I use control left and right to move
>> around.  And, in doing that, I am apparently actually selecting the item.
>> How does one best unselect all items, or query what item is, or items are
>> selected?
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> 
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of James Teh via
>> RWP
>> Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 2:09 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] With OSARA, how to manage volume / pan of items?
>> 
>> In short:
>> 
>> First, when recording your takes, you can do it one of two ways:
>> 1. Enable Options -> Record mode: time selection auto punch. For each new
>> section you want to record, set a time selection accordingly.
>> 2. Enable Options -> Record mode: auto-punch selected items. For each new
>> section you want to record, make sure you have no items selected.
>> After recording the first take, make sure you select that item so that
>> subsequent takes will be added to that item.
>> 
>> to comp, you just select an item and use the Take: Switch items to
>> next/previous take actions (bound to t and shift+t by default). If you
>> like,
>> you can split items at any point and use different takes for the new items.
>> For example, let's say you recorded an entire verse in one shot, you found
>> the best take overall, but you didn't like that take for one particular
>> phrase. No problem: just split the item at that phrase and change the take
>> for that phrase as described above.
>> 
>> In addition, you can rename and choose takes in the Item Properties dialog.
>> 
>> Jamie
>> 
>> On 18/04/2015 9:22 AM, theoreomonster--- via RWP wrote:
>>> Likewise Willing to give it  a try too. Either Jamie or scott care to
>> write up a brief scenario of how you comp multiple takes down to one master
>> take. This will probably help e wrap  my head around whats going on and
>> figure out how to execute this in OS X land.
>>> 
>>> Thanks,
>>> 
>>>> On Apr 17, 2015, at 6:35 AM, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> wrote:
>>>> 
>>>> Cool beans, will try it.
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>> On 4/17/2015 4:24 AM, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>>>>> Well, let's simplify. Each item is a section of time. Each item can
>>>>> have
>> multiple takes. Each take is one option for audio in that section. That is,
>> takes are always the same length; they are bounded by the item. So, it's
>> not
>> so confusing after all.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Also, this has always been accessible with ReaAccess. I'm not doing
>> anything new here.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Finally, as I said, if you prefer tracks, that's fine. I just disagree
>> that they're less efficient. Understood well, takes have the potential to
>> be
>> many times more efficient. I've only been using REAPER for a few months,
>> but
>> takes are one of the main reasons I'm switching. I had to manage takes with
>> tracks in my last project. Never again; far too time consuming and error
>> prone.
>>>>> 
>>>>> Sent from a mobile device
>>>>> 
>>>>>> On 17 Apr 2015, at 6:48 pm, Chris Belle via RWP
>>>>>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> wrote:
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Oh my god, so we'd have bunches of stuff on a single track starting at
>> different places, items and takes both.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I think I'm better off making a separate track for everything and
>> naming it.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I usually can get it right in a few, and then take the best of what
>>>>>> I got, but I know where it is, and then I end up just copying and
>>>>>> pasting what I want to anothe track and cleaning up.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> I guess different strokes for different folks, but I got used to
>>>>>> doing it this way because getting to layers in sonar was such a pain I
>> never bothered.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Maybe I'll like it better in reaper.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Anyway, choice is good.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> On 4/16/2015 10:09 PM, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>> On 17/04/2015 12:39 PM, Jim Snowbarger via RWP wrote:
>>>>>>>> If takes are  manageable, and I haven't learned to do it yet,
>>>>>>>> then it's definitely the way to go.  I am the master or re-take,
>>>>>>>> and mastery of takes is something I really need to acquire.
>>>>>>>> Truly talented people don't have to do this.  But, I do.
>>>>>>> Join the club. :) In short, you move to an item and switch between
>> takes with t and shift+t. Obviously, you'll probably want to split items at
>> various points.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> to do this, do you first have to set punch in and punch out
>>>>>>>> points, so that all takes use the same exact segment along the
>>>>>>>> time line?My problem is that I get tons of item fragments lying
>>>>>>>> around because my start and stop points for each take are ramdomly
>> different from one another.
>>>>>>> Right. The default recording mode in REAPER is "Splits existing items
>> and creates new takes", so it'll create new items wherever the new
>> recording
>> doesn't line up with previous ones.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>>> What's the best way to do that?
>>>>>>> One way is to set Options -> Record mode: time selection auto punch,
>> then set a time selection covering the area you want to record. There is
>> also Options -> Record mode: auto-punch selected items, which I assume just
>> records the area of the selected item, though I'm not certain.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Jamie
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