[Rwp] With OSARA, how to manage volume / pan of items?

Mon Apr 20 12:52:40 EDT 2015

Jamie: thanks for spelling this out.  This is a helpful thing to get on top
of.  It's actually quite simple.  

List: So, in his example here,  an item that is  an entire verse, with one
badd phrase, you would actually need to split the original item into 3
items, do a split just prior to the offending phrase, and a second split
just after it.  Now, you have 3 items, with the middle item being a small
passage that contains the mistake.  Now, just select that small item, record
new takes for that one alone,  and muck with it's takes.   If you have
things selected correctly, and the record option set properly, your punch
ins will affect only that small middle item.

The key thing here for me is, making sure no item is selected, or
determining which one is selected.  I have always found that confusing.
Maybe I'm not doing it right.  But, I use control left and right to move
around.  And, in doing that, I am apparently actually selecting the item.  
How does one best unselect all items, or query what item is, or items are
selected?

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From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of James Teh via
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Sent: Monday, April 20, 2015 2:09 AM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [Rwp] With OSARA, how to manage volume / pan of items?

In short:

First, when recording your takes, you can do it one of two ways:
1. Enable Options -> Record mode: time selection auto punch. For each new
section you want to record, set a time selection accordingly.
2. Enable Options -> Record mode: auto-punch selected items. For each new
section you want to record, make sure you have no items selected. 
After recording the first take, make sure you select that item so that
subsequent takes will be added to that item.

to comp, you just select an item and use the Take: Switch items to
next/previous take actions (bound to t and shift+t by default). If you like,
you can split items at any point and use different takes for the new items.
For example, let's say you recorded an entire verse in one shot, you found
the best take overall, but you didn't like that take for one particular
phrase. No problem: just split the item at that phrase and change the take
for that phrase as described above.

In addition, you can rename and choose takes in the Item Properties dialog.

Jamie

On 18/04/2015 9:22 AM, theoreomonster--- via RWP wrote:
> Likewise Willing to give it  a try too. Either Jamie or scott care to
write up a brief scenario of how you comp multiple takes down to one master
take. This will probably help e wrap  my head around whats going on and
figure out how to execute this in OS X land.
>
> Thanks,
>
>> On Apr 17, 2015, at 6:35 AM, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
wrote:
>>
>> Cool beans, will try it.
>>
>>
>> On 4/17/2015 4:24 AM, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>>> Well, let's simplify. Each item is a section of time. Each item can have
multiple takes. Each take is one option for audio in that section. That is,
takes are always the same length; they are bounded by the item. So, it's not
so confusing after all.
>>>
>>> Also, this has always been accessible with ReaAccess. I'm not doing
anything new here.
>>>
>>> Finally, as I said, if you prefer tracks, that's fine. I just disagree
that they're less efficient. Understood well, takes have the potential to be
many times more efficient. I've only been using REAPER for a few months, but
takes are one of the main reasons I'm switching. I had to manage takes with
tracks in my last project. Never again; far too time consuming and error
prone.
>>>
>>> Sent from a mobile device
>>>
>>>> On 17 Apr 2015, at 6:48 pm, Chris Belle via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Oh my god, so we'd have bunches of stuff on a single track starting at
different places, items and takes both.
>>>>
>>>> I think I'm better off making a separate track for everything and
naming it.
>>>>
>>>> I usually can get it right in a few, and then take the best of what 
>>>> I got, but I know where it is, and then I end up just copying and 
>>>> pasting what I want to anothe track and cleaning up.
>>>>
>>>> I guess different strokes for different folks, but I got used to 
>>>> doing it this way because getting to layers in sonar was such a pain I
never bothered.
>>>>
>>>> Maybe I'll like it better in reaper.
>>>>
>>>> Anyway, choice is good.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> On 4/16/2015 10:09 PM, James Teh via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> On 17/04/2015 12:39 PM, Jim Snowbarger via RWP wrote:
>>>>>> If takes are  manageable, and I haven't learned to do it yet, 
>>>>>> then it's definitely the way to go.  I am the master or re-take, 
>>>>>> and mastery of takes is something I really need to acquire.  
>>>>>> Truly talented people don't have to do this.  But, I do.
>>>>> Join the club. :) In short, you move to an item and switch between
takes with t and shift+t. Obviously, you'll probably want to split items at
various points.
>>>>>
>>>>>> to do this, do you first have to set punch in and punch out 
>>>>>> points, so that all takes use the same exact segment along the 
>>>>>> time line?My problem is that I get tons of item fragments lying 
>>>>>> around because my start and stop points for each take are ramdomly
different from one another.
>>>>> Right. The default recording mode in REAPER is "Splits existing items
and creates new takes", so it'll create new items wherever the new recording
doesn't line up with previous ones.
>>>>>
>>>>>> What's the best way to do that?
>>>>> One way is to set Options -> Record mode: time selection auto punch,
then set a time selection covering the area you want to record. There is
also Options -> Record mode: auto-punch selected items, which I assume just
records the area of the selected item, though I'm not certain.
>>>>>
>>>>> Jamie
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