[Rwp] How in the world do I select a certain patch?
Christopher-Mark Gilland
clgilland07 at gmail.com
Wed Apr 15 00:01:24 EDT 2015
Excellentness! That's precisely what I needed to know. Then, I guess I
just use the standard shift+P to modify the parameters of the Ray Control
Midi plugin?
Chris.
----- Original Message -----
From: "Gianluca Apollaro via RWP" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
To: <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 11:49 AM
Subject: Re: [Rwp] How in the world do I select a certain patch?
Hi,
After you set you're hardware as a midi output, you need to use
ReaControlMidi, that is a reaper plugin. Add it to your track and you
should be able to change the patches if you're hardware responds to
program change messages
Hth,
Gianluca from Italy
SkypeID: gianluca8815
Il 14/04/2015 14:51, Christopher-Mark Gilland via RWP ha scritto:
> No, this does support audio.
>
> OK.
>
> Let me be as specific as possible. I wasn't going to be as the last time
> I was, I got my F**king ass bitten off publicly on list, by a few people,
> and therefore I've purposely made it a point to not write, in their words,
> a novel. But in this case, it's looking like I need to do more
> explaining, as you all don't seem to get the type hardware I'm using.
> Maybe you do, and I`! just don't get what you all are saying.
>
> Firstly, no need to educate me on midi most likely, unless you still! see
> me going wrong with my logic, (no pun intended, LOL!) but anyway, here's
> the two scenareos.
>
> Firstly, I have a Roland RP401R Rosewood digital piano which has built in
> speakers. It also has a line out on the back of it, which I'm running
> into one of the stereo channels of my interface. I totally get that the
> sound I get from the unit will have to be sent through the line out, down
> the chain to my interface's channel line in, which then will be fed into
> Reaper. I totally totally get that. I further also totally get that midi
> isn't audio. You can't know the amount of times I've had to tell people
> this! It's gets so freaking old! Anyway, this digital piano in my
> personal opinion is more of a very low end/very very and did I mention,
> very! souped up digital piano. I say that because it's not got all the
> features by any means you'd find on a pro grade keyboard. The emphesis
> definitely is more on the piano functionality, however, it does have a
> bank of samples built on board probably about 300 of them in addition to
> the 11 different featured piano samples it offers. So, you have all the
> norms like drums, strings, organs, brass, woodwinds, guitars, bases, etc.
> The samples are actually incredible!
>
> Anyway, so I connect the piano to my system via USB which asyncronisly
> does midi in, and midi out.
>
> So, what I'm trying to do is, if I go into Reaper, and I hit ctrl+T to
> create a new track, name it, then hit enter to save the track name and
> insert the track into the project, Then, I'm trying firstly to figure out
> then how to set the input and output to my Roland midi device. I presume
> it's the same as setting the input and output on a midi track which I
> import from a midi .mid file. More about that though in a second.
>
> So, now, let's just say I figure it out, and I get the in and out on that
> track set to midi for my Roland piano/keyboard. I've also set local to
> off on my piano menus so that the only sound I hear when hitting notes is
> that produced by the midi data when that track is armed. So now, what I
> want to know is, firstly, I'm hitting keys and hearing a grand piano. I
> want to now instead however hear say a saxophone. So, what I'm firstly
> asking is, before even hitting R to record anything on that track, how do
> I set the patch to a sax instead of a piano as it now is? I get that
> shift+P would work to let me adjust parameters on the last touched track
> on all its effects in the chain, but that's just it. There are no effects
> yet on the track. There are no soft synths either as I'm doing this
> stricly via hardware. The sounds won't be coming from a software virtual
> instrument. They'll be coming from the sounds built into my Roland piano,
> then sent out the Roland piano's line out, back into my interface, then
> captured in Reaper onto an audio track during the final mix. Does that
> make a little bit more sense? This Roland isn't just a controller. It's
> a full fledged digital piano workstation. It has built in speakers, and
> built in sounds.
>
> OK, as for the two senarios, that was the first. Here's the second.
>
> Let's say that I have a midi .mid file and I go into Reaper, no tracks in
> the project, go to the insert menu and then to media file. I then browse
> for, and open the .mid midi file which already has been pre-recorded,
> probably not even from within Reaper initially. We're talking just a midi
> file maybe I find online for example. I say to import the tempo map etc,
> tell it to import all tracks seperetly, etc. So now, I have a project,
> say with 13 or so tracks. Piano, base, drums, toms, tiko drums, strings,
> flute, etc. I down arrow through each track, tab into the strip, and set
> the outputs from none over to my Roland. I do this on all tracks, then, I
> hit w, or home, either or to move to the start of the project, and then
> hit space bar to play. I definitely do hear the midi file now routed
> through the sounds in my Roland, and all sounds beautifully gorgeous.
> Then, however, I get to thinking. You know that flute track? Hmm! I
> think actually a claranette would a sounded better, or hmm, maybe even a
> trumpet, instead, even better yet. So, I down arrow to the flute track.
> I hit F2 to rename it to say... trumpoet. OK, now, I tab through the
> items on it's strip like input output, volume, pan, etc. Nowhere though
> do I see anywhere to select a patch. I can't hit shift+P as there are no
> effects in the chain on that track, as it's all being done via hardware.
> Therefore, I can't exactly menipulate the patch that way, and change it
> from flute to trumpet. So then, how do I?
>
> Does this make more sense? Again, I didn't wanna do this. I didn't wanna
> write a novel this long, but it's looking like I'm being misunderstood
> left and right with what exactly I'm trying to do. So, I hope this clears
> things up, and for those who would bitch at me for writing such a long
> message, get over it! How else would I have explained, you think I
> wanted? to write something this long? Uh, no?
>
> Anyway, thanks for the help.
>
> Chris.
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "ROBIN Alexis via RWP"
> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 8:15 AM
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] How in the world do I select a certain patch?
>
>
> Oh, so you have to record in audio. Your midi keyboard only send midi
> instruction, not the sound bank.
>
>
> Le 14/04/2015 14:08, Christopher-Mark Gilland via RWP a écrit :
>> OK, but I'm not wanting to do this with a software synth. You're not
>> following. I have a keyboard connected to my interface. I want to play
>> the track and have it play through my keyboard's midi in. So in other
>> words, the keyboard is going to be producing the sounds with its built in
>> patches. I just need to know once I up and down arrow to the track how
>> then to change the instrument both before, and after the track has been
>> recorded. Say I recorded a track with a flute, but then I decided, you
>> know, this would a sounded better had I used an oboe instead. I don't
>> wanna have to go back and redo the entire track over. I just want to
>> change it's patch on the fly.
>>
>> Again, I'm not doing this with a software synth. This is going to be
>> done through the sounds on my keyboard.
>>
>> Chris.
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle via RWP"
>> <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> Sent: Tuesday, April 14, 2015 7:32 AM
>> Subject: Re: [Rwp] How in the world do I select a certain patch?
>>
>>
>>> Also how you do a patch will differ depending on the synth you pick.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 4/14/2015 2:13 AM, Christopher-Mark Gilland via RWP wrote:
>>>> So, I've created a track, and set its output to my Roland midi
>>>> controler. Now, how in the world do I select what patch I want to use
>>>> on that track? Say for example I want to record a sax instead of a
>>>> piano? I tabbed through the track strip, but I don't see any options to
>>>> let me select a particular patch preset. Same goes if I go to my
>>>> insert menu in the menu bar, then to media, and simply import an
>>>> already recorded midi file, then want to change the preset on one of
>>>> the tracks to a different instrument.
>>>> So, how's this done?
>>>> Chris.
>>>>
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