[Rwp] student, newbie... where to start.

Mon Apr 13 06:35:16 EDT 2015

This might be perfect. I'm sorry I failed to mention, but I already own
audacity and goldwave for audio editors if I need to, say, add vocals or
something, and I use them well already for dressing up some accapella music
for a friend, so I think all I might need is midi, but not sure. When I am
able to add instruments to my vocals I'll start thinking about miks and what
have you, but not now. I'm focusing on the keyboard part now
If that's wrong, tell me... lol.

-----Original Message-----
From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Scott
Chesworth via RWP
Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 2:03 AM
To: Reapers Without Peepers
Subject: Re: [Rwp] student, newbie... where to start.

If it's primarily MIDI you're focusing on for now, then you might have an
easier learning curve with QWS. I suggest that because MIDI is one area of
Reaper which is particularly badly documented/supported from an
accessibility point of view. It can be done and is being used to good effect
by a few folks, but there's more help out there for QWS.

Just a thought. Good luck.

Scott

> On 13 Apr 2015, at 06:56, blake tracy via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
wrote:
>
> Thanks.
> You have given me a basic where to start list, so I don't save up for 
> the wrong thing. I was planning to maybe buy sonar some day, but 
> wanted to see if I could even do the midi thing first. It would be 
> horrible to save up and buy a professional application, only to find I 
> can't use it because x y z. I decided reaper was the best stepping 
> stone, especially after vipaudioaccess, when I asked them my 
> questions, redirected me here instead of sonar for, I think price 
> purposes. I will check out these websites, and any others I hear about 
> on this list, and figure out when I can get what. However, 
> clarification? The digital audio machine you spoke of... would I use 
> that in place of my keyboard? It is hardware, like a controller? In the
meantime, I will look at that website.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris 
> Belle via RWP
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:23 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] student, newbie... where to start.
>
> Hi blake?
>
> First of all, welcome to the list.
>
> Reaper is great, but it's sort of the linux of the recording world, if 
> you aren't a self starter and used to digging a lot it can be frustrating.
>
> There's no one book to buy to find out everything, you have to put a 
> lot of pieces together.
>
> When you first start doing this, and if you want to pursue it 
> seriously, it can be very daunting.
>
> I've been at this professionally for 35 years, and it's still 
> frustrating sometimes.
>
> I primarily use sonar, and a number of screen-reading options to get 
> my work done, and reaper is something I am learning and using more and 
> more in my tool kit.
>
> I also provide low priced tutoring from the perspective of all three 
> major screen-readers.
> dealing with recording technology,
> so if all else fails, come see me, and we'll try and put some of those 
> pieces together in a friendly relaxed manner.
>
>
> I can tell you from experience, that if you want all the headaches 
> taken out of the hardware side of things, then indeed, do save up and 
> get a purpose built daw from someone like Jim Roseberry over at 
> studiocat.com he has provided fine machines for many of my colleagues 
> and students, and they are top knotch.
>
> Audio machines are special, with the BIOS EUFI tweaked to give the 
> lowest DPC latencies, and real time like performance.
>
> yes, you will need more than jus your on board sound card to get good 
> performance, depending on what you are doing, you can get by with 
> casual mixing sometimes on a generic device, but windows consumer 
> level hardware will not give you the low latency performance you need 
> for laying tracks, and you need a card which can do asio these don't 
> have to cost the earth, you can get an entry level device like the 
> lexicon alpha for 60 dollars, which also has basic TRS line inputs, 
> and a mic pre, another reason to get a better audio device is the type 
> of connections, as consumer level hardware usually only has the 3.5 mm 
> unbalanced connectors, and they are prone to be noisy, and most pro 
> gear is either TRS or XLR so getting some basics right from jump street is
a good idea.
>
> You don't need a 10 million dollar studio to make music, but you do 
> need some basic decent tools unless you want to be constantly stubbing 
> your toe, as you've discovered, reaper is a good bargain at 60 
> dollars, sonar cost quite a bit more, but is a much more documented, 
> and well trodden path for blindy's, doing this professionally, as 
> there is caketalking from dancing dots, and the JSonar project, ct is 
> paid and uses jaws screenreader while Jsonar is free, donation ware, 
> but sonar is several versions behind the latest, you can still buy it 
> from Dancing dots, Jamie one of the main developers of NVDA 
> screen-reader is developing a great new plug-in for reaper to replace 
> the aging and abandoned reaccess plug many here are still using, it is 
> called Osara, but it is a work in progress, there is no hand holding, 
> except on this list a little bit, I personally think reaper is more 
> slanted toward audio editing than midi, where as sonar is the gold 
> standard for midi and maybe in time if enough people are using reaper,
there will be an easier path to follow for new reaper users.
>
> there are a couple of websites with some reaper info, will let someone 
> else chime in with that, but the Osara stuff is at 
> https://github.com/jcsteh/osara#start-of-content
>
> YOu can find jsonar at
> jsonar.org
>
> You can find ct at
> dancingdots.com
>
> happy learning 'smile'.
>
>> On 4/12/2015 11:25 AM, blake tracy via RWP wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have just joined the RWP list. I am a blind college student and I'm 
>> very interested in audio production. I'm especially good at editing 
>> audio. I feel like a detective when it comes to Daws, and I've been 
>> uselessly buying a lot of things that I don't need or can't use 
>> unless I have something else. I have a normal windows 8 computer, and 
>> a Yamaha YPG235 keyboard that I use for midi. I've downloaded reaper 
>> just to try, and am now afraid to buy because of all the misguided 
>> buying I've done lately. So I've tried it, and have half second 
>> delays in between what I play and what I hear. Google told me to get 
>> a soundcard. True or false? And if so, I don't want to buy the wrong 
>> sound card. It's a windows surface pro so it'll have to be external.
>> Should I just give in and save up for a computer just for music? And 
>> are there any books that will take the detective work out of this 
>> field once and for all?
>>
>> Thanks for any feedback. Sorry to take a lot of people back to newbie 
>> topics, but google stinks at telling me what I need instead of what 
>> others need.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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