[Rwp] student, newbie... where to start.

Scott Chesworth scottchesworth at gmail.com
Mon Apr 13 03:02:57 EDT 2015


If it's primarily MIDI you're focusing on for now, then you might have
an easier learning curve with QWS. I suggest that because MIDI is one
area of Reaper which is particularly badly documented/supported from
an accessibility point of view. It can be done and is being used to
good effect by a few folks, but there's more help out there for QWS.

Just a thought. Good luck.

Scott

> On 13 Apr 2015, at 06:56, blake tracy via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>
> Thanks.
> You have given me a basic where to start list, so I don't save up for the
> wrong thing. I was planning to maybe buy sonar some day, but wanted to see
> if I could even do the midi thing first. It would be horrible to save up and
> buy a professional application, only to find I can't use it because x y z. I
> decided reaper was the best stepping stone, especially after vipaudioaccess,
> when I asked them my questions, redirected me here instead of sonar for, I
> think price purposes. I will check out these websites, and any others I hear
> about on this list, and figure out when I can get what. However,
> clarification? The digital audio machine you spoke of... would I use that in
> place of my keyboard? It is hardware, like a controller? In the meantime, I
> will look at that website.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at bluegrasspals.com] On Behalf Of Chris Belle
> via RWP
> Sent: Monday, April 13, 2015 12:23 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [Rwp] student, newbie... where to start.
>
> Hi blake?
>
> First of all, welcome to the list.
>
> Reaper is great, but it's sort of the linux of the recording world, if you
> aren't a self starter and used to digging a lot it can be frustrating.
>
> There's no one book to buy to find out everything, you have to put a lot of
> pieces together.
>
> When you first start doing this, and if you want to pursue it seriously, it
> can be very daunting.
>
> I've been at this professionally for 35 years, and it's still frustrating
> sometimes.
>
> I primarily use sonar, and a number of screen-reading options to get my work
> done, and reaper is something I am learning and using more and more in my
> tool kit.
>
> I also provide low priced tutoring from the perspective of all three major
> screen-readers.
> dealing with recording technology,
> so if all else fails, come see me, and we'll try and put some of those
> pieces together in a friendly relaxed manner.
>
>
> I can tell you from experience, that if you want all the headaches taken out
> of the hardware side of things, then indeed, do save up and get a purpose
> built daw from someone like Jim Roseberry over at studiocat.com he has
> provided fine machines for many of my colleagues and students, and they are
> top knotch.
>
> Audio machines are special, with the BIOS EUFI tweaked to give the lowest
> DPC latencies, and real time like performance.
>
> yes, you will need more than jus your on board sound card to get good
> performance, depending on what you are doing, you can get by with casual
> mixing sometimes on a generic device, but windows consumer level hardware
> will not give you the low latency performance you need for laying tracks,
> and you need a card which can do asio these don't have to cost the earth,
> you can get an entry level device like the lexicon alpha for 60 dollars,
> which also has basic TRS line inputs, and a mic pre, another reason to get a
> better audio device is the type of connections, as consumer level hardware
> usually only has the 3.5 mm unbalanced connectors, and they are prone to be
> noisy, and most pro gear is either TRS or XLR so getting some basics right
> from jump street is a good idea.
>
> You don't need a 10 million dollar studio to make music, but you do need
> some basic decent tools unless you want to be constantly stubbing your toe,
> as you've discovered, reaper is a good bargain at 60 dollars, sonar cost
> quite a bit more, but is a much more documented, and well trodden path for
> blindy's, doing this professionally, as there is caketalking from dancing
> dots, and the JSonar project, ct is paid and uses jaws screenreader while
> Jsonar is free, donation ware, but sonar is several versions behind the
> latest, you can still buy it from Dancing dots, Jamie one of the main
> developers of NVDA screen-reader is developing a great new plug-in for
> reaper to replace the aging and abandoned reaccess plug many here are still
> using, it is called Osara, but it is a work in progress, there is no hand
> holding, except on this list a little bit, I personally think reaper is more
> slanted toward audio editing than midi, where as sonar is the gold standard
> for midi and maybe in time if enough people are using reaper, there will be
> an easier path to follow for new reaper users.
>
> there are a couple of websites with some reaper info, will let someone else
> chime in with that, but the Osara stuff is at
> https://github.com/jcsteh/osara#start-of-content
>
> YOu can find jsonar at
> jsonar.org
>
> You can find ct at
> dancingdots.com
>
> happy learning 'smile'.
>
>> On 4/12/2015 11:25 AM, blake tracy via RWP wrote:
>>
>> Hello all,
>>
>> I have just joined the RWP list. I am a blind college student and I'm
>> very interested in audio production. I'm especially good at editing
>> audio. I feel like a detective when it comes to Daws, and I've been
>> uselessly buying a lot of things that I don't need or can't use unless
>> I have something else. I have a normal windows 8 computer, and a
>> Yamaha YPG235 keyboard that I use for midi. I've downloaded reaper
>> just to try, and am now afraid to buy because of all the misguided
>> buying I've done lately. So I've tried it, and have half second delays
>> in between what I play and what I hear. Google told me to get a
>> soundcard. True or false? And if so, I don't want to buy the wrong
>> sound card. It's a windows surface pro so it'll have to be external.
>> Should I just give in and save up for a computer just for music? And
>> are there any books that will take the detective work out of this
>> field once and for all?
>>
>> Thanks for any feedback. Sorry to take a lot of people back to newbie
>> topics, but google stinks at telling me what I need instead of what
>> others need.
>>
>> Thanks.
>>
>>
>>
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