[Rwp] My! Lord! am I impressed!

[Scott Chesworth]

Just done some testing here, and you're right, actions intended for
the last touched track don't apply to the master track, even when the
master is focused as far as a surface is concerned. Guess there's a
distinction being made between focused and actually selected too,
seeing as ReaAccess reports that nothing is selected every time I bank
left to get to the master track. It also seems that keyboard is king
over surface in the pecking order, because all of the last touched
type actions I tried were applying themselves to whatever the keyboard
touched last, rather than which track the surface thought it was
working with. Checking the undo history, I realised that the surface
was triggering an entirely different set of actions, most of which had
"(via surface)" at the end of them. Perhaps interestingly though, the
undo points also showed that when it comes to muting, soloing and
toggling FX bypass, the same "Adjust track mute (via surface)" actions
were being used, irrespective of whether the master track was the one
I happened to be working with at the time.

Woo, messy! Not sure if that's what you expected. Shout if there's
anything else to investigate.

Scott


On 4/6/15, James Teh via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
> Just to be absolutely certain, can you clarify what makes you say its
> focused? I don't doubt you can manipulate master track parameters from the
> surface, but are there any indications other than this? For example, do
> actions that describe themselves as working on the last touched track
> suddenly start working on the master? The reason I ask is that I didn't
> think a surface affected REAPER's idea of the last touched track as far as
> keyboard was concerned, especially because on most surfaces; you're working
> with multiple tracks at once.
>
>
> Sent from a mobile device
>
>> On 6 Apr 2015, at 8:19 pm, Scott Chesworth via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com>
>> wrote:
>>
>> Jamie wrote:
>> "You can't focus the master track (i.e. make it the last touched
>> track), but you can certainly access parameters on it."
>> In case you didn't already know, the master track does seem to gain
>> focus if you bank left from track 1 using a control surface. I've only
>> tinkered briefly, but it seemed to work the same way with both HUI and
>> whatever protocol the AlphaTrack uses. Dunno if that info would enable
>> you to hack around any of the API annoyances, but shout if there's any
>> testing to be done and I'll hook a surface up.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>>> On 4/6/15, James Teh via RWP <rwp at bluegrasspals.com> wrote:
>>>> On 6/04/2015 9:03 AM, theoreomonster--- via RWP wrote:
>>>> One thing to note here. From what i understand Reaper has no API's for
>>>> the
>>>> master track so neither SWS nor any or the reaper access plug ins can
>>>> access the master track.
>>> That's not quite correct. You can't focus the master track (i.e. make it
>>> the last touched track), but you can certainly access parameters on it.
>>> Both ReaAccess and OSARA support this to some extent.
>>>
>>>> However VO sees it and i can use VO keys to do stuff on the master
>>>> track
>>> Yeah; it's exposed via the accessibility API on Windows too.
>>> Unfortunately, REAPER's Windows accessibiliy implementation is somewhat
>>> broken/limited, so we can't use it quite as well without a lot of
>>> messing about.
>>>
>>> I assume items/takes aren't exposed on the Mac; i.e. you can't hear what
>>> item is selected when you move to it, etc. without opening the Item
>>> Properties dialog?
>>>
>>> Jamie
>>>
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