[RWP] My Next Investment, a Wreck of a Mac

[Hadi Rezaee]

Hello Indi
Windows and mac are different things.
You can compare "windows" and "OS X".
And you also can compare "PC (aka customized computer)" with "mac"
Now, If we want to compare windows to OS X, I say both of them are 
great, And both of them do the same thing "Listen to audio, Manipulate 
audio, mix and master, render"
And, To be honest with you, Both of these operating systems can do all 
of those stuff on the same level in regards to quality. however,
I've heard that OS X compatibility is a bit better with digital audio 
workstations, Mainly because The big musicians and bands use OS X, and 
that makes developers to focus on OS X compatibility development a bit 
better than windows.
But then again, We have lots of great known bands that are using windows 
8.1 with their greatly engineered  PC.

Now the topic of mac vs PC is different.
Macs are built by Apple engineers, and beside of having high quality 
external builds, The hardware which is stacked in a mac are capable to 
talk to each other in a very comfortable manner because they are fully 
compatible with each other, and the way that They are set up to also 
talk to the  Operating system that is being run on them.

You can build a PC that costs $5000 but it might not be suitable for 
Audio production use, because there are many many many hardware to 
choose, and you have to select the right ones for your work, Otherwise 
you face with big and small problems.
Macs are built in in a way that the hardware and the software can run 
without literally any problems and this will reduce latency and 
generally any  technical issues.
The OS X Interface is (just a bit) easier to use, Which makes a lot of 
known musicians to use it. By easy i mean it is easy to create and 
restore back ups, It is easy to call for a deticated support for your 
supporting needs, and  it is easy to sync your systems into each other 
because of the current apple ecosystem.

With the right knowledge and patience, you can buy and build a great PC 
that runs windows on it, and with the right settings, You will mix and 
Master and render even better than other mac users who may have less 
knowledge than you.

Now, in regards to accessibility,  I have nothing to put in. I do not 
like sonar because it is  very slow on my system. (I have a quad-core 
CPU with 8GB of ram).
I love REAPER and i can do basic things with it, but I wish i could do 
things more easily, and i wish that there was active development on 
accessibility of REAPER or  at least any active accessibility plugin.
I've heard that ProTools is extremely accessible, and Apple is quickly 
patching up accessibility on logic pro, Though it's only words that i've 
heard from maybe some random  apple fanboys. but if That case is true, i 
assume you can get a mac and get a copy of ProTools and just carry on if 
oyou can aford things of course.

Bottom line. I stress that in these times, There will be never any 
quality difference in audio both in windows and OS X.
There will be difference in audio quality Depending on your Mix and 
Mastering skills, and There will be also Audio quality depending on your 
hardware. (Audio interface, Motherboard if you are on a PC, chipset.) 
for example.
So, If you think you are faster on a mac and you can aford it, Just go 
and get it and just don't care what "PC" and "mac" lovers say.
If you also think that you do not like to pay an engineer to build you a 
PC, or you do not like your current PC, or you have a feeling that your 
hardware is failing for your job, go for a mac.

On 9/5/2014 7:39 PM, Indigo wrote:
> Obviously, I've stepped on sacred cows here.
> Sorry, didn't mean to criticize  anyone's computer choice, or 
> religion, or smallness of his organ, whatever.
> If you don't hear any difference, you just don't hear it.
>
> On 9/4/2014 10:21 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>> Ok now in all seriousness and all snark aside, I'm gonna have to 
>> ditto what Scott said here. I have taken projects i did in reaper  
>> and opened them up on the mac and rendered them out again. If you 
>> hear a difference its all in your head. Maybe its just some self 
>> fulfilling prophacy, where you want a mac, but you are on the fence 
>> and you need to justify buying one? Unless you are doing a proper 
>> master of your tracks Simply bouncing a project out of any DAW, on 
>> Mac Or Windows is not going to be as loud or  or etc as it sounded in 
>> the DAW. Thats why Mastering engineers get paid the big bucks. If all 
>> you gonna do is use the mac for your rendering box, save yourself the 
>> money.
>> On Sep 4, 2014, at 9:49 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I listen to recordings I know were rendered on a Mac, any old Mac, 
>>> and those rendered on any Windows computer, and anybody can tell me 
>>> I'm crazy, but all those rendered on Macs are both a dozen times 
>>> louder and way clearer.
>>> For example, when I google for PropellerHeads Reason installed in 
>>> Windows, there's a world of difference in the usual background music 
>>> in PropellerHeads videos, all done on Macs.
>>> I'm tired of hearing the huge loss of quality I hear when rendering 
>>> to .wav, .aiff, .flac, whatever foremat, on any Windows computer.
>>> Before I render the sound, , like Camel Audio's Alchemy, LinPlug's 
>>> Albino, and a hundred other VST's, they're absolutely gorgeous in 
>>> Windows, so the issue doesn't exist before rendering.
>>> I've tried all the rendering options in Sonar, also the very slowest 
>>> and highest-quality rendering in Reaper, same result, the rendered 
>>> file loses volume, loses bass, loses presence, it's something to do 
>>> with Windows itself, whether XP 32, Windows 7 64 bit, Windows 8, all 
>>> the recordings I hear show it.
>>> Why does anyone suppose that you see Macs everywhere in commercial 
>>> studios?
>>> Noone doing real professional work even bothers to say it, it's 
>>> assumed, Windows sucks.
>>> Well, I'm not going to inflict navigating around Reaper on a Mac on 
>>> myself, I'll continue to do all but final rendering in Reaper on my 
>>> I7 Windows machine.
>>> I'm just going to hit my local Craig's List and pick up an old Mac 
>>> in whatever affordable condition, connect its soundcard to my 
>>> Windows computer soundcard by SPDIF, then do all the pre-rendering 
>>> work on Windows, then shoot the files over to the Mac and render 
>>> them to .aiff.
>>> It's an interesting and affordable experiment anyway.
>>> The only way to prove or disprove a theory is to do the experiment.
>>> Indi
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