[RWP] MIDI editing

[Scott Chesworth]

Hi David,

This is odd. I'm already splitting in dead space between notes as you
suggested, but still getting a lot of retriggering. That's why I
figured it must be either Reaper creating a second instance of that
note or a note duration lagging over the split causing it. As it turns
out it's only very occasionally the former, and I'm almost 100% sure
it's not the latter having gone and pruned things. Starting to suspect
it's just that this drum plugin is a bit cack at triggering, but
annoyingly I'm gonna be bound to it for the duration of this demo
cycle, so I've got to find a way to make friends. Is anyone else
seeing this with other drum plugs, or do we have any other EZDrummer 2
users here?

Thanks for the splitting and regluing tip. I'll go give that a go.

Scott



On 10/30/14, David P Shortland <dragamilov at comcen.com.au> wrote:
> Hi & Greetings from The Land Down Under,
>
> The way I have avoided the problem of some notes retriggering or doubling
> when splitting items is to Split 4 to 5 percent before the note you wish to
>
> edit.
>
> Example: You have a Snare drum on or somewhere near Bar 86 beat 2 place the
>
> cursor at 86.1.95 and Split there.
> Select the Item that you have just Split Off, and enter the MIDI Editor with
>
> Alt plus Shift plus E and this should open right at the note you wish to
> edit, without causing other artifacts.
>
> When you Exit the Editor just Glue the Items back together. It sounds a bit
>
> drawn out, but helps in a big way.
>
> I have also discovered that MIDI events behave peculiarly depending on how
> you move or position the Item. If for some reason you wish to keep a take
> that you have just done but realise you are slightly ahead of the beat on
> the majority of notes, instead of Quantising, Select the Item you wish to
> move, Select and Cut it, and then Paste it slightly back from its original
> position.
>
> Example: Your take appears to sound really nice except you find that the
> majority of your notes are between 10 & 20 tix ahead of the beat.
>
> The Item start point is 10.4.0. Select and Cut the Item and Paste it at
> 10.3.98 or 10.3.99
>
> You can always go into the Item Properties Dialog and change the Start
> position, but on my system it does strange things to the MIDI Events,
> positioning wise.
>
> Hope this helps...
>
>
> Kind regards
>
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
>
>
>
>
>
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: Scott Chesworth
> Sent: Thursday, October 30, 2014 5:49 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: [RWP] MIDI editing
>
> Hi folks,
>
> I'm doing some MIDI editing here, comping together the best stuff from
> multiple drum takes. The MIDI data is being piped through EZDrummer.
> I'm encountering two problems that hopefully someone can help me
> solve:
>
> 1. Quite often when I split an item, it'll cause a retrigger of MIDI
> notes, so I'll often end up with extra kicks, snares or tom hits
> around the split. Sometimes I can go in and delete them, but at other
> splits I can still hear some low velocity weirdness happening during
> playback even though there's nothing obviously wrong in the events
> list. I've checked the duration of preceding hits too, to make sure
> there's no overlap.
>
> 2. Using CTRL+Alt+E after selecting an item does give me the in-built
> events list, and CTRL+F2 on an event does allow me to edit it, but I'm
> hoping to find a way of having better control of where I get placed in
> that events list. Sometimes I get dropped at the current cursor
> position (the ideal result), but other times I'll be landed at the
> start of the item, and other times I'll be right at the start of the
> song with thousands of hits to find my way through to get back to the
> event I'm trying to edit.
>
> Any idea on how I can refine either of these workflows? So far, it's
> been a pretty slow unproductive experience. Thanks in advance for any
> help.
>
> Scott
>
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