[RWP] Using reaper with midi and hardware sounds?

Sun Nov 30 08:56:55 EST 2014

Thanks for clearing that up.
Now I will explore this further.

2014-11-30 14:18 GMT+01:00, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net>:
> That's not possible without creating an audio track for each midi track,
> then soloing and recording everything to it's own audio track, then
> recording in multiple passes. Sends and receives won't do much for you here,
> because you aren't working with softsynths.
>
> You either record a composite, either by recording the mix of everything to
> your sound card's input on a midi track, then rendering, or bounce instead,
> or solo and record multiple passes from your audio input if you want
> everything on it's own track for further processing.
> I did this on a couple of tracks I made with my old Ensoniq TS-12 keyboard
> from 1993 to get around the 32-note polyphony limitation, and the not so
> awesome (to today's standards) midi clock. Also gave me a lot of flexibility
> in terms of using more internal effects, stuff from Reaper, or the ability
> to send individual parts to outboard gear, all of which I have done.
>
>> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Tor Tollhag <tortollhag at gmail.com> wrote:
>>
>> Ah I get that now.
>> I still have Another question.
>> Let's say I have a few midi tracks with different instruments from
>> hardware on them.
>> I wonder if I would be able to create audio tracks that only send
>> audio from one midi track at a time.
>> The way things are set up for me now is that whenever I choose the
>> input of my soundcard as an audio track, if I don't have any of the
>> midi tracks muted or soloed I get sound from Everything on that audio
>> track.
>> It would be great to have one audio track for each midi track. That
>> way when I record I don't have to solo every midi track for separat
>> recording.
>> I saw somewhere you can do this but I still haven't figured out
>> exactly how the track sends and recieves work and how to use that part
>> of reaper.
>> Still I'm getting there and Learning slowly but surely.
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> 2014-11-29 19:21 GMT+01:00, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net>:
>>> If you want audio from hardware, you have to record it into an audio
>>> track.
>>> That's how it is. Whether you choose to record each midi track to its
>>> own
>>> separate audio track for further processing (which I have done from time
>>> to
>>> time,) or just record all trucks to one audio track, it's up to you.
>>>
>>> Sent from my iPhone
>>>
>>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Tor Tollhag <tortollhag at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>
>>>> That's cool.
>>>> At the moment I've figured out how to import midi files from qws and
>>>> make them play while in the Project.
>>>> However when I try to render the Project there's no audio from the
>>>> midi tracks that uses my hardware sounds.
>>>> I can add an audio track and select my soundcard input, then I might
>>>> be able to record stuff, but then I can only record all the midi
>>>> tracks, unless I mute tracks just to record audio, it's a bit of a
>>>> mess at the moment.
>>>> However if I'm using midi with softsynths the output isn't midi, so I
>>>> can render that and hear Everything. Just need to figure out how to
>>>> work with midi tracks with midi output where I later want to render
>>>> the audio from the Project including them.
>>>> Also if I try to add an effect plugin to a midi track it gets silent,
>>>> again cause it's not an audio track.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> 2014-11-29 17:41 GMT+01:00, Ken Downey <KenWDowney at blindlabyrinth.com>:
>>>>> I'll be putting the podcast up in the next day or two, and hopefully
>>>>> it'll
>>>>> help some. I'm laying down an electronic wind instrument sax track or
>>>>> a
>>>>> piece I'm working on at the moment, but as soon as I'm done I'll start
>>>>> editing that podcast. It sounds like it's needed, and it also sounds
>>>>> like
>>>>> I'll be adding more material before I upload it.
>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>> From: "Tor Tollhag" <tortollhag at gmail.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:03 AM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Using reaper with midi and hardware sounds?
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>>> Well today I imported a midi file into reaper that I had recorded
>>>>>> with
>>>>>> my keybord in qws.
>>>>>> I managed to get all 3 tracks in reaper and I saw the midi items
>>>>>> there.
>>>>>> However I didn't here any audio.
>>>>>> I had my keybord set to performance mode and local off mode.
>>>>>> When opening this file in qws the audio bit works perfectly.
>>>>>> Tried to mess with changing the midi output to my focusrite soundcard
>>>>>> and still no audio. Midi input on all tracks should be set to my
>>>>>> juno-g keybord surely.
>>>>>> I feel pretty stupid, I must be missing something. Also tried arming
>>>>>> /
>>>>>> unarming the tracks and turning record monitor on and off, without
>>>>>> any
>>>>>> audable results.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I really need some help with this.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2014-11-27 19:32 GMT+01:00, Ken Downey
>>>>>> <KenWDowney at blindlabyrinth.com>:
>>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>>> so long as you can hear your keyboard, you don't have to worry about
>>>>>>> anything audio when you're recording through MIDI. I monitor my line
>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>> directly when I'm recording MIDI because there is no latency
>>>>>>> whatsoever.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> course, I have to mute it when I'm monitoring audio input, if I want
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> hear
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> the effects in real time anyway. Just tab over to where it says midi
>>>>>>> output
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> and down arrow to the name of your board, then hit enter. Arm the
>>>>>>> track
>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> off you go. Also, remember that no matter how good Reaper is, QWS is
>>>>>>> still a
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> rockin' tool too, as are Goldwave and Audacity, and you won't be
>>>>>>> replacing
>>>>>>> them entirely.
>>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>>> From: "Tor Tollhag" <tortollhag at gmail.com>
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:33 AM
>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] Using reaper with midi and hardware sounds?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>>> I know how to use my midi device in Reaper now if I want to use
>>>>>>>> soft
>>>>>>>> synth plugins.
>>>>>>>> However I wonder if anyone here knows how to set reaper up so the
>>>>>>>> sounds built into the midi keybord is used?
>>>>>>>> I feel a bit stupid for not figuring this out since it all works
>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>> Quick Windows Sequencer if I set the keybord in what's called
>>>>>>>> Performance mode.
>>>>>>>> The keybord i'm using is a Roland Juno-G.
>>>>>>>> I have it hooked up with midi via usb and also have stereo audio
>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>> to my Focusrite usb sound interface.
>>>>>>>> When using it with qws I set it up so local mode is off, so the
>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>> sound I'm hearing is the midi data that qws is sending.
>>>>>>>> I want this to work with Reaper as well if possible.
>>>>>>>> Also my sound interface has a record monitor on by default so when
>>>>>>>> using qws all I have to do is turn the keybord on, switch to
>>>>>>>> performance mode and turn local mode off and then I'm ready to
>>>>>>>> sequence.
>>>>>>>> It doesn't seem to be that easy with reaper.
>>>>>>>> Do I have to have a second audio track monitoring for every midi
>>>>>>>> track? If the sound interface has the monitoring on by default
>>>>>>>> surely
>>>>>>>> I shouldn't have to do this as well?
>>>>>>>> I'm a bit confused and I would be greatful for any help.
>>>>>>>> Again working with software synths in reaper is way easyer, and
>>>>>>>> I've
>>>>>>>> even sequenced a bit with that.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Tor
>>>>>>>>
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