[RWP] Using reaper with midi and hardware sounds?

Patrick Perdue patrick at pdaudio.net
Sun Nov 30 08:18:16 EST 2014 

That's not possible without creating an audio track for each midi track, then soloing and recording everything to it's own audio track, then recording in multiple passes. Sends and receives won't do much for you here, because you aren't working with softsynths.

You either record a composite, either by recording the mix of everything to your sound card's input on a midi track, then rendering, or bounce instead, or solo and record multiple passes from your audio input if you want everything on it's own track for further processing.
I did this on a couple of tracks I made with my old Ensoniq TS-12 keyboard from 1993 to get around the 32-note polyphony limitation, and the not so awesome (to today's standards) midi clock. Also gave me a lot of flexibility in terms of using more internal effects, stuff from Reaper, or the ability to send individual parts to outboard gear, all of which I have done.

> On Nov 30, 2014, at 8:00 AM, Tor Tollhag <tortollhag at gmail.com> wrote:
> 
> Ah I get that now.
> I still have Another question.
> Let's say I have a few midi tracks with different instruments from
> hardware on them.
> I wonder if I would be able to create audio tracks that only send
> audio from one midi track at a time.
> The way things are set up for me now is that whenever I choose the
> input of my soundcard as an audio track, if I don't have any of the
> midi tracks muted or soloed I get sound from Everything on that audio
> track.
> It would be great to have one audio track for each midi track. That
> way when I record I don't have to solo every midi track for separat
> recording.
> I saw somewhere you can do this but I still haven't figured out
> exactly how the track sends and recieves work and how to use that part
> of reaper.
> Still I'm getting there and Learning slowly but surely.
> 
> 
> 
> 
> 2014-11-29 19:21 GMT+01:00, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net>:
>> If you want audio from hardware, you have to record it into an audio track.
>> That's how it is. Whether you choose to record each midi track to its own
>> separate audio track for further processing (which I have done from time to
>> time,) or just record all trucks to one audio track, it's up to you.
>> 
>> Sent from my iPhone
>> 
>>> On Nov 29, 2014, at 12:38 PM, Tor Tollhag <tortollhag at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> 
>>> That's cool.
>>> At the moment I've figured out how to import midi files from qws and
>>> make them play while in the Project.
>>> However when I try to render the Project there's no audio from the
>>> midi tracks that uses my hardware sounds.
>>> I can add an audio track and select my soundcard input, then I might
>>> be able to record stuff, but then I can only record all the midi
>>> tracks, unless I mute tracks just to record audio, it's a bit of a
>>> mess at the moment.
>>> However if I'm using midi with softsynths the output isn't midi, so I
>>> can render that and hear Everything. Just need to figure out how to
>>> work with midi tracks with midi output where I later want to render
>>> the audio from the Project including them.
>>> Also if I try to add an effect plugin to a midi track it gets silent,
>>> again cause it's not an audio track.
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 
>>> 2014-11-29 17:41 GMT+01:00, Ken Downey <KenWDowney at blindlabyrinth.com>:
>>>> I'll be putting the podcast up in the next day or two, and hopefully
>>>> it'll
>>>> help some. I'm laying down an electronic wind instrument sax track or a
>>>> piece I'm working on at the moment, but as soon as I'm done I'll start
>>>> editing that podcast. It sounds like it's needed, and it also sounds
>>>> like
>>>> I'll be adding more material before I upload it.
>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>> From: "Tor Tollhag" <tortollhag at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Saturday, November 29, 2014 8:03 AM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Using reaper with midi and hardware sounds?
>>>> 
>>>> 
>>>>> Hi again.
>>>>> Well today I imported a midi file into reaper that I had recorded with
>>>>> my keybord in qws.
>>>>> I managed to get all 3 tracks in reaper and I saw the midi items there.
>>>>> However I didn't here any audio.
>>>>> I had my keybord set to performance mode and local off mode.
>>>>> When opening this file in qws the audio bit works perfectly.
>>>>> Tried to mess with changing the midi output to my focusrite soundcard
>>>>> and still no audio. Midi input on all tracks should be set to my
>>>>> juno-g keybord surely.
>>>>> I feel pretty stupid, I must be missing something. Also tried arming /
>>>>> unarming the tracks and turning record monitor on and off, without any
>>>>> audable results.
>>>>> 
>>>>> I really need some help with this.
>>>>> 
>>>>> 
>>>>> 2014-11-27 19:32 GMT+01:00, Ken Downey <KenWDowney at blindlabyrinth.com>:
>>>>>> Hey,
>>>>>> so long as you can hear your keyboard, you don't have to worry about
>>>>>> anything audio when you're recording through MIDI. I monitor my line
>>>>>> in
>>>>>> directly when I'm recording MIDI because there is no latency
>>>>>> whatsoever.
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> Of
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> course, I have to mute it when I'm monitoring audio input, if I want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> hear
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> the effects in real time anyway. Just tab over to where it says midi
>>>>>> output
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> and down arrow to the name of your board, then hit enter. Arm the
>>>>>> track
>>>>>> and
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> off you go. Also, remember that no matter how good Reaper is, QWS is
>>>>>> still a
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> rockin' tool too, as are Goldwave and Audacity, and you won't be
>>>>>> replacing
>>>>>> them entirely.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message -----
>>>>>> From: "Tor Tollhag" <tortollhag at gmail.com>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Thursday, November 27, 2014 10:33 AM
>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] Using reaper with midi and hardware sounds?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Hi there.
>>>>>>> I know how to use my midi device in Reaper now if I want to use soft
>>>>>>> synth plugins.
>>>>>>> However I wonder if anyone here knows how to set reaper up so the
>>>>>>> sounds built into the midi keybord is used?
>>>>>>> I feel a bit stupid for not figuring this out since it all works with
>>>>>>> Quick Windows Sequencer if I set the keybord in what's called
>>>>>>> Performance mode.
>>>>>>> The keybord i'm using is a Roland Juno-G.
>>>>>>> I have it hooked up with midi via usb and also have stereo audio
>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>> to my Focusrite usb sound interface.
>>>>>>> When using it with qws I set it up so local mode is off, so the only
>>>>>>> sound I'm hearing is the midi data that qws is sending.
>>>>>>> I want this to work with Reaper as well if possible.
>>>>>>> Also my sound interface has a record monitor on by default so when
>>>>>>> using qws all I have to do is turn the keybord on, switch to
>>>>>>> performance mode and turn local mode off and then I'm ready to
>>>>>>> sequence.
>>>>>>> It doesn't seem to be that easy with reaper.
>>>>>>> Do I have to have a second audio track monitoring for every midi
>>>>>>> track? If the sound interface has the monitoring on by default surely
>>>>>>> I shouldn't have to do this as well?
>>>>>>> I'm a bit confused and I would be greatful for any help.
>>>>>>> Again working with software synths in reaper is way easyer, and I've
>>>>>>> even sequenced a bit with that.
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> 
>>>>>>> Tor
>>>>>>> 
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