[RWP] Recabinet 4, general plugin frustration and suggestions

Scott Chesworth scottchesworth at gmail.com
Tue Nov 25 08:48:12 EST 2014


Hmmm, I'd take issue with one thing here. Hadi says "There is no
reason to press hard on developers who do not care about
accessibility". I've managed to get a few positive changes made over
years of banging my head against this wall, but I'm yet to find a
mainstream developer who does seem to truly care about accessibility
to the point that they'll go out on a limb to make it happen. I'd
argue that if a product sounds good to your ears, then it's worth
pressing for. Obviously, you won't win them all, but if nobody presses
anybody, nothing will change.

Alex, I'm likely gonna get some eyes on the task of saving out a bunch
of presets from one of these amp sims soon because I'll need it for
the next TMH record. Which one should they be spending time on in your
opinion? I like the sound of Recabinet from what I've heard, but think
I remember you saying that one of the problems with it are that
tweaking the automatable parameters doesn't have any effect? If that's
true, I'd be hesitant to put time into saving presets for that,
because for me presets are only ever a starting point, they always
seem to need some extra tweakage.

On 11/25/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
> Hi Alex
> Thanks for updating us about Recabinet! I also  would expected to hear
> that.
> I have arrived also at the same conclusion, that maybe let's not waste
> our times to  fiddle with the app, instead of that you could play the
> guitar and compose more music. Though i've been using your Recabinet 3
> presets that you probably spent a lot of time to make, thanks for them!
> There is no reason to press hard on developers who do not care about
> accessibility. There's no reason to also give our money to them and buy
> their software.....
>
>
> On 11/25/2014 2:40 AM, Alex H. wrote:
>> Hi,
>>
>> A somewhat quick update on Recabinet 4. Kazrog [finally] put out a
>> demo version, and while it's got decent tones (with the Psycho A and
>> Psycho B models which are 5150 and 6505+), it's still as inaccessible
>> as Recab3. No more than I expected. I also don't care for how muddy
>> the amp modeler portion is generally, so I don't think it's worth
>> anybody's cash to get it unless you wish to play with Ocr and scan for
>> hours trying to craft up your most used patches. All my general tricks
>> don't work, either, as in Recabinet3 (manually editing preset files
>> and other boring stuff).
>>
>> No go with Bias Desktop on Win either. I hear that the Mac version
>> might be possible to hack and get working, but I don't have time to do
>> that when I have plenty of low-cost and free sims that do the same
>> thing. Better or not is subjective, but the supposedly really good
>> stuff, as always, is out of reach pertaining to accessibility.
>>
>> I'm going to drop Kazrog another line and see if they can shed some
>> light on any possible solutions. Maybe if nothing else pre-made
>> presets in .rpl format, or a bank (FXB) with some templates and such
>> of all the amps. It's nowhere even close to ideal, but I'd rather do
>> something while whining here on this list about how audio and plug
>> tech passes us by, as has been stated numerous times before. Control
>> surfaces will only get us so far at any rate.
>>
>> Any other ideas for this, or in plug access in general? I'm all ears. :D
>>
>> Have a good one
>> Alex
>>
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