[RWP] How to clean up guitar amp sim noises?

Wed Nov 12 16:02:21 EST 2014

Thanks Alex! I solved my problem. I don't know why, but If i change 
presets while my guitar is going on, sometimes Reaper Crashes.
So i just don't hit the strings and change presets.
Thanks for these great sounding presets!
I have seen recabinet 4 about page, It looks like that they are going to 
compete with amplitude and native instruments guitar rig and such, as 
they are going to have amp modeling as well.
I am excited about recabinet 3, because it is really better than reaverb.
I was trying to find a mesa cabinet in your preset, I think i found one 
or two if i'm not mistaking, the  dual cab solo is one.
Cheers

On 11/12/2014 9:32 PM, Alex H. wrote:
> 44.1 and 48 generally.
>
> On 11/12/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>> Alex, what samplerate is your audio interface set as?
>> 44.1, 48, or 96?
>>
>>
>> On 11/12/2014 5:46 AM, Alex H. wrote:
>>> Hmm. Recabinet shouldn't crash Reaper, that's not happened to me.
>>> Can't help there as I've not had that, sorry :(
>>>
>>> Yeah, recab is a beast though that's for sure!
>>>
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 11/11/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello Alex
>>>> It's working now! I renamed it to vst-Recabinet 3.ini, since there was
>>>> one file with the same name  there.
>>>> I've got recabinet 3, I think the price wasn't that too much, One of my
>>>> close friends bought it for me, Since  we cannot use paypal or credit
>>>> cards
>>>>
>>>> I just used your presets, and I see that Recabinet is awesome! It is so
>>>> better than reaVerb, both in terms of latency, and.. dam they sound
>>>> good.
>>>> However; I've got a big problem, When i navigate through the presets,
>>>> some of them make my Reaper and audio interface crash at the same time.
>>>> Not sure why's that. It prevents me to  easily see all of your presets.
>>>> But OverAll, I thing Recabinet is really good, combining with the
>>>> presets that you made.
>>>> I might play with your presets for a while before trying to change
>>>> something or use the interface...
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 11/11/2014 9:01 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>> Hi,
>>>>>
>>>>> Sorry. I must have sent you the raw presets and renamed them at some
>>>>> point to be a .rpl file. Try renaming to vst-Recabinet.ini
>>>>> then put that in %appdaata%\reaper\presets
>>>>> That should work.
>>>>>
>>>>> Do you have recabinet4, or 3? I don't yet have 4, still waiting on
>>>>> them to put out a demo so I can test to see if it's worth my dough.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks much,
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/11/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hello alex
>>>>>> I've got recabinet finally! and I'm trying to load your preset
>>>>>> library.
>>>>>> however, when i want to import the preset file, i get an error. the
>>>>>> error says:
>>>>>> error loading preset library, header not found!
>>>>>> Do you know what can  cause this?
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/1/2014 11:08 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>> Not being gauche, but Google's a good place to start. Generally the
>>>>>>> first result or so is a homepage for a plugin name you type in.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Recabinet is at recabi.net and TSE audio is at tseaudio.com for a
>>>>>>> start,
>>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/1/14, Keith Hinton <keithint1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> I'm a bit late to this thread, but you guys have mentioned a lot of
>>>>>>>> great Reaper FX here. I wonder where you get some of these from?
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 11/1/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi Alex!
>>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for these!
>>>>>>>>> I'll check them out and reply
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/2014 8:35 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Here are my recab presets
>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4425568/recab.rpl?dl
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I'll write over the weekend and ask if anything's changed access
>>>>>>>>>> wise
>>>>>>>>>> in version 4 too.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> peace,
>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex!
>>>>>>>>>>> Do you attach them via the mail?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/2014 6:28 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, contact him again and ask if anything got looked at and
>>>>>>>>>>>> what's
>>>>>>>>>>>> likely to change in version 4? It's about the least
>>>>>>>>>>>> hassling-looking
>>>>>>>>>>>> way of hassling someone isn't it :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/14, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hadi, Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> First, Hadi, if you can see you can load wav files in
>>>>>>>>>>>>> recabinet.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to do it using hacky things called screen readers, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>> afraid.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>>>>>> The initial idea was you could blend external IRs and the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> builtin
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recab ones, and make a huge tone. I don't wanna get into making
>>>>>>>>>>>>> foldres for each guit track and blending IR outputs right now,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>>> could be done using multiple plugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I've not tried Recabinet 4 yet, I'm kinda waiting for a demo
>>>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to come out to see if access has improved or worsened, but it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>> frustratingly still not up for grabs on the site. I might just
>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>> buy
>>>>>>>>>>>>> it anyway but I'll be bummed if it's worse than 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll post the reaper presets.ini file of my recab presets (not
>>>>>>>>>>>>> gonna
>>>>>>>>>>>>> export 30 fxps...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott, it's really the luck of the draw. You might try forcing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaper
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to load each plug in its own process so it's able to be
>>>>>>>>>>>>> alt-tabbed
>>>>>>>>>>>>> to,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> and then scan the window. More often than not I get the same
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> do, though. It takes anywhere from half an hour to an hour to
>>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>>>>> preset.Yay staying up all night on weekends! :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I did contact Shane at Kazrog to see what he could do, only
>>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> got was "we'll look into it," which while boring and generic,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>> least better than NI/IK Multimedia's non-response.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/14, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably a mute question Alex, but have you been in touch with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer of ReCabinet to explain how useful them sorting out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> automation parameters would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do you get anything useful out of OCR with NVDA? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes I get results from it (it seems to do a good job of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> iLok
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> related errors), but I'm guessing it's not replicating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout, because whenever I've moused over the text it's picked
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a button and clicked it's had no affect. What am I missing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/14, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use NVDA with Recabinet. The interface is a bear for two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Shift-P dialog doesn't have any effect on any parameter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dynamics and some EQ params, but you cannot change cabinets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Useful...not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked around this with the hotspotNkockoff thing Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back, and before that I used the OCR addon for NVDA and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a bunch of presets of stuff I thought sounded cool;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have those if you want them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short, then, recabinet is an access nightmare without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants to take 20 minutes to figure out how to change a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cabinet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With presets and/or patience, though, it's quite a nice bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your great tips,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I currently do not own any real amps or cabinets, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more bucks so maybe i could go for  a nice set of rig, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to go. till then, I'm trying to get as much as quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from  amp simulations, because both for  playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live/recording
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use  them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might buy recabinet, but how's the accessibility on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you use jaws or NVDA to work with it? Does it require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have listened to some songs using recabinet in youtube,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so awesome, even with  lepou lecto!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/2014 6:12 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hadi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a bit late on this, but for reaVerb, set wet level to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infinite as Scott said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reaEq is really quite good, and once you get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweaking and find a good sound, you could add reaComp or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaXComp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of the chain (after reaVerb with a cab IR loaded).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to worry about this really, but it could help make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even more beafy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're interested in using other cab sims, there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affordable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recabinet, Mercuriall Cab (which is free), and if you wanna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some bucks, Waves has a nice set of guitar plugs, which to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or other are accessible enough using the shift-P dialog.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'd want to get another cab sim is if you play live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track when recording, or just jamming out. The reaVerb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irritates me. You can set the Max FFT size to 32 for now if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your great advise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, first step, drop that gain down on the audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I need to play with  the plugins to  boost that amp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to move the VST plugins up and down in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fx window? because i don't know how to do that, and i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deleting everything in the chain, and re-adding the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly, Is ReaVerb the only option that we have for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cabinet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, do you have any ideas that how much wet should i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaVerb?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 0 a good number? 0.0 that is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> third, Do you know of a good EQ plugin that you would use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dayly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 1:54 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi dude,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup, definitely back off the gain then! The next stage is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to spend time figuring out how your plugins respond,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the amp set flat and tinker with each control to figure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adds or subtracts sound-wise. When I'm getting to know a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to split my time fairly evenly between playing whilst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controls, as well as pre-recording a few riffs I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and just concentrating on the amp controls with those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> riffs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reason being that this way, you're still spending some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin as a guitar player, and your brain will get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on what feels different as a player when you make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjustments,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as learning what your new plugin can do clinically. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be recording yourself, both of those mindsets will come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different stages of the recording. If you can get at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever plugin you're using, find some that you like and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the controls with that preset loaded to see how it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same for presets that you really don't like too,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably save you some time further down the line. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you've found a plugin that you're able to dial up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent, throw in that Tubescreamer before the amp and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment to find out what difference that makes. I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 or 3 controls on a Tubescreamer, but they're very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interactive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in front of a heavily driven amp, and not all plugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respond
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. After that, read up on EQ, watch some tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you can learn to identify the frequencies that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as the ones that could be cut out of your guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's more chance the good stuff will get heard. Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound you're looking for will likely come from double or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your guitar parts, but if you can double or quad track a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's great to start with instead of double or quad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything to disguise a pants guitar tone, then you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than most people already. Keep in mind at all times that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who do this stuff for a living, it's a tall order
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nowadays
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the sound of a single guitar track to stack up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uberly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processed multi-amp and multi-mic rigs people are using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commercial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records, so if it sounds small on its own, that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what multitracking will fix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that all makes sense. Shout if I've used any terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar with. It sounds like quite a time and energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> investment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written down, but it's even more so in real life :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi scott.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for replying!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My gain on the audio interface was all the way to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain was fully hot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't know i have to bring down the gain my my audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If i do that, my electric guitar won't sound as fat as i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should i do then?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to get that thick sound, so for that i increase
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface gain. am i doing the wrong thing? (I think i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what should i do then!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 12:55 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>          From a quick listen on laptop speakers, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into that amp sim way too hot. Remember, these sims are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mimicking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response of a real amp as closely as possible, and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally doesn't have a heap of gain before it in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to encourage bad habits, but when I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through plugins like that, I pretty much ignore the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the most realistic feel from the software instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about getting a level that's deemed to be good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm mixing stuff for people who have recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trimming 30 DB or more off of DI guitars before my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responding anything like real-world amps. So yeah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down the gain on your interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't get any sense of what style pickups you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they're also going to raise the noise floor. Nearby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could also be adding to that, so unless you're certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well shielded it'd be worth spending a minute spinning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair, walking around the room a bit etc with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you usually would to see if there's a place where that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its happy place. It's also worth noting that a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar sounds are just noisy as hell when there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concentrate on the sounds you're getting when you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music first and foremost. That's the stuff that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's just gonna be noisy as hell and you're gonna have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the song to clean up the exposed gaps manually. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real amps where the hiss alone was scary to be in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those situations if someone decides this is the perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice, then you're instantly dead by shred lol. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying is that concentrating on cleaning up your sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and good, but don't get fooled into not recording until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect, because it's rare that anyone gets there, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never end up recording anything that they care about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuck down that rabbit hole.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck, and keep us posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that there are very great members in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MailingList
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awesome content even with limited resources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need some advice/instructions about guitar sims, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decrease their hiss, and fuzz sounds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that everything  in my physical environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great cable with a scarlett 8i6 audio interface, so I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspect, I should not get any noise or anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my REAPER FX chain, that i normally use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tse tube screamer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lepou lecto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ReaVerb with some great mesa boogi cabs, (god cabs)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's all I've got. I have no  noise gates, no EQ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to work with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, when i crank up the input, There's a big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hissing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the background, even when i'm not playing. It looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hissing sound, but it's just too loud, and I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could record without any  hissing noises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, I think the sound is having a little bit of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warm for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to try to  achieve that big,  smooth warm sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a simple test that you can hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87868354/Hadi_guitar_tone_test.mp3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, by the way, as you see, my  vollume is kind of..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise reaper's master vollume, or the track vollume, i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buzzing sound on the guitar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone help me with this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Keith
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