[RWP] How to clean up guitar amp sim noises?

Wed Nov 12 13:02:16 EST 2014

44.1 and 48 generally.

On 11/12/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
> Alex, what samplerate is your audio interface set as?
> 44.1, 48, or 96?
>
>
> On 11/12/2014 5:46 AM, Alex H. wrote:
>> Hmm. Recabinet shouldn't crash Reaper, that's not happened to me.
>> Can't help there as I've not had that, sorry :(
>>
>> Yeah, recab is a beast though that's for sure!
>>
>> Alex
>>
>> On 11/11/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>> Hello Alex
>>> It's working now! I renamed it to vst-Recabinet 3.ini, since there was
>>> one file with the same name  there.
>>> I've got recabinet 3, I think the price wasn't that too much, One of my
>>> close friends bought it for me, Since  we cannot use paypal or credit
>>> cards
>>>
>>> I just used your presets, and I see that Recabinet is awesome! It is so
>>> better than reaVerb, both in terms of latency, and.. dam they sound
>>> good.
>>> However; I've got a big problem, When i navigate through the presets,
>>> some of them make my Reaper and audio interface crash at the same time.
>>> Not sure why's that. It prevents me to  easily see all of your presets.
>>> But OverAll, I thing Recabinet is really good, combining with the
>>> presets that you made.
>>> I might play with your presets for a while before trying to change
>>> something or use the interface...
>>>
>>>
>>> On 11/11/2014 9:01 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>>
>>>> Sorry. I must have sent you the raw presets and renamed them at some
>>>> point to be a .rpl file. Try renaming to vst-Recabinet.ini
>>>> then put that in %appdaata%\reaper\presets
>>>> That should work.
>>>>
>>>> Do you have recabinet4, or 3? I don't yet have 4, still waiting on
>>>> them to put out a demo so I can test to see if it's worth my dough.
>>>>
>>>> Thanks much,
>>>> Alex
>>>>
>>>> On 11/11/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hello alex
>>>>> I've got recabinet finally! and I'm trying to load your preset
>>>>> library.
>>>>> however, when i want to import the preset file, i get an error. the
>>>>> error says:
>>>>> error loading preset library, header not found!
>>>>> Do you know what can  cause this?
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/1/2014 11:08 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>> Not being gauche, but Google's a good place to start. Generally the
>>>>>> first result or so is a homepage for a plugin name you type in.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Recabinet is at recabi.net and TSE audio is at tseaudio.com for a
>>>>>> start,
>>>>>> though.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/1/14, Keith Hinton <keithint1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> I'm a bit late to this thread, but you guys have mentioned a lot of
>>>>>>> great Reaper FX here. I wonder where you get some of these from?
>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 11/1/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi Alex!
>>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for these!
>>>>>>>> I'll check them out and reply
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/31/2014 8:35 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Here are my recab presets
>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4425568/recab.rpl?dl
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> I'll write over the weekend and ask if anything's changed access
>>>>>>>>> wise
>>>>>>>>> in version 4 too.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> peace,
>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex!
>>>>>>>>>> Do you attach them via the mail?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/2014 6:28 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Dude, contact him again and ask if anything got looked at and
>>>>>>>>>>> what's
>>>>>>>>>>> likely to change in version 4? It's about the least
>>>>>>>>>>> hassling-looking
>>>>>>>>>>> way of hassling someone isn't it :P
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/14, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hadi, Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> First, Hadi, if you can see you can load wav files in
>>>>>>>>>>>> recabinet.
>>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>>> way to do it using hacky things called screen readers, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>> afraid.
>>>>>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>>>>> The initial idea was you could blend external IRs and the
>>>>>>>>>>>> builtin
>>>>>>>>>>>> Recab ones, and make a huge tone. I don't wanna get into making
>>>>>>>>>>>> foldres for each guit track and blending IR outputs right now,
>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>>> could be done using multiple plugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I've not tried Recabinet 4 yet, I'm kinda waiting for a demo
>>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>>> to come out to see if access has improved or worsened, but it's
>>>>>>>>>>>> frustratingly still not up for grabs on the site. I might just
>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>> buy
>>>>>>>>>>>> it anyway but I'll be bummed if it's worse than 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll post the reaper presets.ini file of my recab presets (not
>>>>>>>>>>>> gonna
>>>>>>>>>>>> export 30 fxps...).
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott, it's really the luck of the draw. You might try forcing
>>>>>>>>>>>> reaper
>>>>>>>>>>>> to load each plug in its own process so it's able to be
>>>>>>>>>>>> alt-tabbed
>>>>>>>>>>>> to,
>>>>>>>>>>>> and then scan the window. More often than not I get the same
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>> do, though. It takes anywhere from half an hour to an hour to
>>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>>>> preset.Yay staying up all night on weekends! :D
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> I did contact Shane at Kazrog to see what he could do, only
>>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>> got was "we'll look into it," which while boring and generic,
>>>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>> least better than NI/IK Multimedia's non-response.
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Peace,
>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/14, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably a mute question Alex, but have you been in touch with
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> developer of ReCabinet to explain how useful them sorting out
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> automation parameters would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do you get anything useful out of OCR with NVDA? I
>>>>>>>>>>>>> mean,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes I get results from it (it seems to do a good job of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> iLok
>>>>>>>>>>>>> related errors), but I'm guessing it's not replicating the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>>>>>>> layout, because whenever I've moused over the text it's picked
>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>> a button and clicked it's had no affect. What am I missing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/14, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use NVDA with Recabinet. The interface is a bear for two
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> though:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Shift-P dialog doesn't have any effect on any parameter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> except
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dynamics and some EQ params, but you cannot change cabinets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Useful...not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked around this with the hotspotNkockoff thing Jim
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> back, and before that I used the OCR addon for NVDA and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scanned
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a bunch of presets of stuff I thought sounded cool;
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have those if you want them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short, then, recabinet is an access nightmare without
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants to take 20 minutes to figure out how to change a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cabinet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> With presets and/or patience, though, it's quite a nice bit
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> kit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your great tips,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I currently do not own any real amps or cabinets, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more bucks so maybe i could go for  a nice set of rig, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to go. till then, I'm trying to get as much as quality
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from  amp simulations, because both for  playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live/recording
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use  them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might buy recabinet, but how's the accessibility on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you use jaws or NVDA to work with it? Does it require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have listened to some songs using recabinet in youtube,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so awesome, even with  lepou lecto!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/2014 6:12 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hadi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a bit late on this, but for reaVerb, set wet level to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infinite as Scott said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reaEq is really quite good, and once you get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> comfortable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweaking and find a good sound, you could add reaComp or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaXComp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of the chain (after reaVerb with a cab IR loaded).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to worry about this really, but it could help make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even more beafy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're interested in using other cab sims, there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affordable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recabinet, Mercuriall Cab (which is free), and if you wanna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some bucks, Waves has a nice set of guitar plugs, which to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or other are accessible enough using the shift-P dialog.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> One
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'd want to get another cab sim is if you play live
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track when recording, or just jamming out. The reaVerb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irritates me. You can set the Max FFT size to 32 for now if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your great advise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, first step, drop that gain down on the audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I need to play with  the plugins to  boost that amp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to move the VST plugins up and down in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fx window? because i don't know how to do that, and i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deleting everything in the chain, and re-adding the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly, Is ReaVerb the only option that we have for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cabinet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, do you have any ideas that how much wet should i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaVerb?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 0 a good number? 0.0 that is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> third, Do you know of a good EQ plugin that you would use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dayly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 1:54 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi dude,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup, definitely back off the gain then! The next stage is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to spend time figuring out how your plugins respond,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the amp set flat and tinker with each control to figure
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adds or subtracts sound-wise. When I'm getting to know a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to split my time fairly evenly between playing whilst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controls, as well as pre-recording a few riffs I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and just concentrating on the amp controls with those
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> riffs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reason being that this way, you're still spending some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin as a guitar player, and your brain will get a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on what feels different as a player when you make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjustments,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as learning what your new plugin can do clinically. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be recording yourself, both of those mindsets will come
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different stages of the recording. If you can get at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever plugin you're using, find some that you like and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the controls with that preset loaded to see how it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same for presets that you really don't like too,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably save you some time further down the line. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you've found a plugin that you're able to dial up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent, throw in that Tubescreamer before the amp and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment to find out what difference that makes. I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 or 3 controls on a Tubescreamer, but they're very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interactive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in front of a heavily driven amp, and not all plugs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> respond
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. After that, read up on EQ, watch some tutorials
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> etc,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you can learn to identify the frequencies that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> rock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as the ones that could be cut out of your guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's more chance the good stuff will get heard. Most
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound you're looking for will likely come from double or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your guitar parts, but if you can double or quad track a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's great to start with instead of double or quad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything to disguise a pants guitar tone, then you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than most people already. Keep in mind at all times that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who do this stuff for a living, it's a tall order
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nowadays
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the sound of a single guitar track to stack up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uberly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processed multi-amp and multi-mic rigs people are using
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commercial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records, so if it sounds small on its own, that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what multitracking will fix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that all makes sense. Shout if I've used any terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar with. It sounds like quite a time and energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> investment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written down, but it's even more so in real life :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi scott.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for replying!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My gain on the audio interface was all the way to the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain was fully hot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't know i have to bring down the gain my my audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If i do that, my electric guitar won't sound as fat as i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should i do then?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to get that thick sound, so for that i increase
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface gain. am i doing the wrong thing? (I think i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> am)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what should i do then!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 12:55 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         From a quick listen on laptop speakers, it
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into that amp sim way too hot. Remember, these sims are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mimicking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response of a real amp as closely as possible, and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally doesn't have a heap of gain before it in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to encourage bad habits, but when I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through plugins like that, I pretty much ignore the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the most realistic feel from the software instead
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about getting a level that's deemed to be good
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm mixing stuff for people who have recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> themselves,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trimming 30 DB or more off of DI guitars before my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responding anything like real-world amps. So yeah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down the gain on your interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't get any sense of what style pickups you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they're also going to raise the noise floor. Nearby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could also be adding to that, so unless you're certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well shielded it'd be worth spending a minute spinning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair, walking around the room a bit etc with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you usually would to see if there's a place where that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its happy place. It's also worth noting that a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar sounds are just noisy as hell when there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concentrate on the sounds you're getting when you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music first and foremost. That's the stuff that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> matters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's just gonna be noisy as hell and you're gonna have
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the song to clean up the exposed gaps manually. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real amps where the hiss alone was scary to be in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those situations if someone decides this is the perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice, then you're instantly dead by shred lol. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying is that concentrating on cleaning up your sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and good, but don't get fooled into not recording until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect, because it's rare that anyone gets there, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never end up recording anything that they care about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuck down that rabbit hole.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck, and keep us posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that there are very great members in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MailingList
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awesome content even with limited resources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need some advice/instructions about guitar sims, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decrease their hiss, and fuzz sounds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that everything  in my physical environment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great cable with a scarlett 8i6 audio interface, so I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspect, I should not get any noise or anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my REAPER FX chain, that i normally use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tse tube screamer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lepou lecto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ReaVerb with some great mesa boogi cabs, (god cabs)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's all I've got. I have no  noise gates, no EQ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to work with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, when i crank up the input, There's a big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hissing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the background, even when i'm not playing. It looks
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hissing sound, but it's just too loud, and I want to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could record without any  hissing noises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, I think the sound is having a little bit of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fuz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warm for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to try to  achieve that big,  smooth warm sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a simple test that you can hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87868354/Hadi_guitar_tone_test.mp3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, by the way, as you see, my  vollume is kind of..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise reaper's master vollume, or the track vollume, i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buzzing sound on the guitar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone help me with this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Keith
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