[RWP] How to clean up guitar amp sim noises?

Hadi Rezaee hadirezaei at gmx.com
Wed Nov 12 04:50:45 EST 2014 

Alex, what samplerate is your audio interface set as?
44.1, 48, or 96?


On 11/12/2014 5:46 AM, Alex H. wrote:
> Hmm. Recabinet shouldn't crash Reaper, that's not happened to me.
> Can't help there as I've not had that, sorry :(
>
> Yeah, recab is a beast though that's for sure!
>
> Alex
>
> On 11/11/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>> Hello Alex
>> It's working now! I renamed it to vst-Recabinet 3.ini, since there was
>> one file with the same name  there.
>> I've got recabinet 3, I think the price wasn't that too much, One of my
>> close friends bought it for me, Since  we cannot use paypal or credit cards
>>
>> I just used your presets, and I see that Recabinet is awesome! It is so
>> better than reaVerb, both in terms of latency, and.. dam they sound good.
>> However; I've got a big problem, When i navigate through the presets,
>> some of them make my Reaper and audio interface crash at the same time.
>> Not sure why's that. It prevents me to  easily see all of your presets.
>> But OverAll, I thing Recabinet is really good, combining with the
>> presets that you made.
>> I might play with your presets for a while before trying to change
>> something or use the interface...
>>
>>
>> On 11/11/2014 9:01 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>> Hi,
>>>
>>> Sorry. I must have sent you the raw presets and renamed them at some
>>> point to be a .rpl file. Try renaming to vst-Recabinet.ini
>>> then put that in %appdaata%\reaper\presets
>>> That should work.
>>>
>>> Do you have recabinet4, or 3? I don't yet have 4, still waiting on
>>> them to put out a demo so I can test to see if it's worth my dough.
>>>
>>> Thanks much,
>>> Alex
>>>
>>> On 11/11/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> Hello alex
>>>> I've got recabinet finally! and I'm trying to load your preset library.
>>>> however, when i want to import the preset file, i get an error. the
>>>> error says:
>>>> error loading preset library, header not found!
>>>> Do you know what can  cause this?
>>>>
>>>> On 11/1/2014 11:08 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>> Not being gauche, but Google's a good place to start. Generally the
>>>>> first result or so is a homepage for a plugin name you type in.
>>>>>
>>>>> Recabinet is at recabi.net and TSE audio is at tseaudio.com for a
>>>>> start,
>>>>> though.
>>>>>
>>>>> Alex
>>>>>
>>>>> On 11/1/14, Keith Hinton <keithint1234 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>> I'm a bit late to this thread, but you guys have mentioned a lot of
>>>>>> great Reaper FX here. I wonder where you get some of these from?
>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 11/1/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Alex!
>>>>>>> Thanks a lot for these!
>>>>>>> I'll check them out and reply
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 10/31/2014 8:35 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>>> Here are my recab presets
>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/4425568/recab.rpl?dl
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I'll write over the weekend and ask if anything's changed access
>>>>>>>> wise
>>>>>>>> in version 4 too.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> peace,
>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 10/31/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Thanks Alex!
>>>>>>>>> Do you attach them via the mail?
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/2014 6:28 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Dude, contact him again and ask if anything got looked at and
>>>>>>>>>> what's
>>>>>>>>>> likely to change in version 4? It's about the least
>>>>>>>>>> hassling-looking
>>>>>>>>>> way of hassling someone isn't it :P
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 10/31/14, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hadi, Scott,
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> First, Hadi, if you can see you can load wav files in recabinet.
>>>>>>>>>>> No
>>>>>>>>>>> way to do it using hacky things called screen readers, I'm
>>>>>>>>>>> afraid.
>>>>>>>>>>> :(
>>>>>>>>>>> The initial idea was you could blend external IRs and the builtin
>>>>>>>>>>> Recab ones, and make a huge tone. I don't wanna get into making
>>>>>>>>>>> foldres for each guit track and blending IR outputs right now,
>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>>>>>> could be done using multiple plugs.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I've not tried Recabinet 4 yet, I'm kinda waiting for a demo
>>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>>> to come out to see if access has improved or worsened, but it's
>>>>>>>>>>> frustratingly still not up for grabs on the site. I might just go
>>>>>>>>>>> buy
>>>>>>>>>>> it anyway but I'll be bummed if it's worse than 3.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I'll post the reaper presets.ini file of my recab presets (not
>>>>>>>>>>> gonna
>>>>>>>>>>> export 30 fxps...).
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Scott, it's really the luck of the draw. You might try forcing
>>>>>>>>>>> reaper
>>>>>>>>>>> to load each plug in its own process so it's able to be
>>>>>>>>>>> alt-tabbed
>>>>>>>>>>> to,
>>>>>>>>>>> and then scan the window. More often than not I get the same
>>>>>>>>>>> thing
>>>>>>>>>>> you
>>>>>>>>>>> do, though. It takes anywhere from half an hour to an hour to
>>>>>>>>>>> make
>>>>>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>>> preset.Yay staying up all night on weekends! :D
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I did contact Shane at Kazrog to see what he could do, only thing
>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>> got was "we'll look into it," which while boring and generic, was
>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>> least better than NI/IK Multimedia's non-response.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Peace,
>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/14, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>> Probably a mute question Alex, but have you been in touch with
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> developer of ReCabinet to explain how useful them sorting out
>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>> automation parameters would be?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, how do you get anything useful out of OCR with NVDA? I
>>>>>>>>>>>> mean,
>>>>>>>>>>>> sometimes I get results from it (it seems to do a good job of
>>>>>>>>>>>> iLok
>>>>>>>>>>>> related errors), but I'm guessing it's not replicating the
>>>>>>>>>>>> screen
>>>>>>>>>>>> layout, because whenever I've moused over the text it's picked
>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>> a button and clicked it's had no affect. What am I missing?
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/14, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I use NVDA with Recabinet. The interface is a bear for two
>>>>>>>>>>>>> reasons,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> though:
>>>>>>>>>>>>> 1. Shift-P dialog doesn't have any effect on any parameter,
>>>>>>>>>>>>> except
>>>>>>>>>>>>> dynamics and some EQ params, but you cannot change cabinets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Useful...not.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I worked around this with the hotspotNkockoff thing Jim posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>> way
>>>>>>>>>>>>> back, and before that I used the OCR addon for NVDA and scanned
>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>> plug interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> I made a bunch of presets of stuff I thought sounded cool; you
>>>>>>>>>>>>> may
>>>>>>>>>>>>> have those if you want them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> In short, then, recabinet is an access nightmare without
>>>>>>>>>>>>> presets.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Who
>>>>>>>>>>>>> wants to take 20 minutes to figure out how to change a cabinet?
>>>>>>>>>>>>> LOL
>>>>>>>>>>>>> :)
>>>>>>>>>>>>> With presets and/or patience, though, it's quite a nice bit of
>>>>>>>>>>>>> kit.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope this helps.
>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hello Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your great tips,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I currently do not own any real amps or cabinets, I'm waiting
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> more bucks so maybe i could go for  a nice set of rig, but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> long
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> way to go. till then, I'm trying to get as much as quality as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from  amp simulations, because both for  playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> live/recording
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> use  them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I might buy recabinet, but how's the accessibility on this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> software?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do you use jaws or NVDA to work with it? Does it require
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> scripts?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I have listened to some songs using recabinet in youtube, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so awesome, even with  lepou lecto!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/30/2014 6:12 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi Hadi,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm a bit late on this, but for reaVerb, set wet level to 0,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dry
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> infinite as Scott said.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> The reaEq is really quite good, and once you get comfortable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweaking and find a good sound, you could add reaComp or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaXComp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the end of the chain (after reaVerb with a cab IR loaded).
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> You
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> need to worry about this really, but it could help make a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> phat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even more beafy.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If you're interested in using other cab sims, there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> affordable
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Recabinet, Mercuriall Cab (which is free), and if you wanna
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dish
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some bucks, Waves has a nice set of guitar plugs, which to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> some
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> degree
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> or other are accessible enough using the shift-P dialog. One
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reason
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you'd want to get another cab sim is if you play live through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> track when recording, or just jamming out. The reaVerb
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> latency
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> irritates me. You can set the Max FFT size to 32 for now if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> an
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> issue as well.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Best of luck,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Alex
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for your great advise.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So, first step, drop that gain down on the audio interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Now, I need to play with  the plugins to  boost that amp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> have a problem.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Is there a way to move the VST plugins up and down in a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> easily
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the fx window? because i don't know how to do that, and i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> end
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> deleting everything in the chain, and re-adding the plugins.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Secondly, Is ReaVerb the only option that we have for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> cabinet
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> simulation?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If so, do you have any ideas that how much wet should i set
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> reaVerb?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is 0 a good number? 0.0 that is.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> third, Do you know of a good EQ plugin that you would use
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> dayly?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 1:54 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi dude,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Yup, definitely back off the gain then! The next stage is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you to spend time figuring out how your plugins respond, so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the amp set flat and tinker with each control to figure out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adds or subtracts sound-wise. When I'm getting to know a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> new
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try to split my time fairly evenly between playing whilst
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tweaking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> controls, as well as pre-recording a few riffs I know I'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> play
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and just concentrating on the amp controls with those riffs
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> loop.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Reason being that this way, you're still spending some time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugin as a guitar player, and your brain will get a chance
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> pick
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> on what feels different as a player when you make
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> adjustments,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as learning what your new plugin can do clinically. If
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> going
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> be recording yourself, both of those mindsets will come in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> useful
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> at
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> different stages of the recording. If you can get at the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> presets
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whatever plugin you're using, find some that you like and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> go
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> check
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> out
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the controls with that preset loaded to see how it's being
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> used.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Do
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the same for presets that you really don't like too,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it'll
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> probably save you some time further down the line. When
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> happy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that you've found a plugin that you're able to dial up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> something
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> consistent, throw in that Tubescreamer before the amp and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> same
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> experiment to find out what difference that makes. I know
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> only
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> 2 or 3 controls on a Tubescreamer, but they're very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interactive
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> placed
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in front of a heavily driven amp, and not all plugs respond
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> them. After that, read up on EQ, watch some tutorials etc,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> see
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> whether you can learn to identify the frequencies that rock
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> world
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as well as the ones that could be cut out of your guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> there's more chance the good stuff will get heard. Most of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> fat
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound you're looking for will likely come from double or
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> quad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your guitar parts, but if you can double or quad track a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's great to start with instead of double or quad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tracking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything to disguise a pants guitar tone, then you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> doing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> better
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> than most people already. Keep in mind at all times that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> even
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people who do this stuff for a living, it's a tall order
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> nowadays
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get the sound of a single guitar track to stack up against
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> uberly
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> processed multi-amp and multi-mic rigs people are using on
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> commercial
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> records, so if it sounds small on its own, that's probably
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what multitracking will fix.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hope that all makes sense. Shout if I've used any terms
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> familiar with. It sounds like quite a time and energy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> investment
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> written down, but it's even more so in real life :P
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi scott.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks for replying!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> My gain on the audio interface was all the way to the end.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> yeah,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> gain was fully hot!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I didn't know i have to bring down the gain my my audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> If i do that, my electric guitar won't sound as fat as i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> want.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> What
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> should i do then?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need to get that thick sound, so for that i increase the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> audio
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> interface gain. am i doing the wrong thing? (I think i am)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> So what should i do then!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/29/2014 12:55 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>         From a quick listen on laptop speakers, it sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> into that amp sim way too hot. Remember, these sims are
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> mimicking
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> response of a real amp as closely as possible, and a real
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> generally doesn't have a heap of gain before it in the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> signal
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chain.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't want to encourage bad habits, but when I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recording
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through plugins like that, I pretty much ignore the
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> meters
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> look
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> for the most realistic feel from the software instead of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> worrying
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> about getting a level that's deemed to be good practice.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Often
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm mixing stuff for people who have recorded themselves,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> find
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm trimming 30 DB or more off of DI guitars before my
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> plugins
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> start
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> responding anything like real-world amps. So yeah, first
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> step,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> turn
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> down the gain on your interface.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Couldn't get any sense of what style pickups you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> but they're also going to raise the noise floor. Nearby
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electronics
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could also be adding to that, so unless you're certain
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well shielded it'd be worth spending a minute spinning
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> around
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> your
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> chair, walking around the room a bit etc with everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> wired
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> up
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> as
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> you usually would to see if there's a place where that
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> its happy place. It's also worth noting that a lot of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> heavy
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar sounds are just noisy as hell when there's nothing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> concentrate on the sounds you're getting when you're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> actually
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> playing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> music first and foremost. That's the stuff that matters.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Sometimes,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> it's just gonna be noisy as hell and you're gonna have to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> run
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> through
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the song to clean up the exposed gaps manually. I've
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> recorded
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> few
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> real amps where the hiss alone was scary to be in a room
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> with,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> one
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> those situations if someone decides this is the perfect
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> time
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> practice, then you're instantly dead by shred lol. I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> suppose
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> what
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> saying is that concentrating on cleaning up your sounds
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> well
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and good, but don't get fooled into not recording until
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> everything
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> perfect, because it's rare that anyone gets there, and a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> lot
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> people
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> never end up recording anything that they care about
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> they're
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> stuck down that rabbit hole.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Good luck, and keep us posted
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> On 10/28/14, Hadi Rezaee <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Hi guys
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I know that there are very great members in this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> MailingList
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> who
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> produce
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> awesome content even with limited resources.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I need some advice/instructions about guitar sims, and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> how
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> can
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> decrease their hiss, and fuzz sounds.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I'm sure that everything  in my physical environment is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ok,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> got
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> great cable with a scarlett 8i6 audio interface, so I
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> think
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> aspect, I should not get any noise or anything.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's my REAPER FX chain, that i normally use:
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> tse tube screamer
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Lepou lecto
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> ReaVerb with some great mesa boogi cabs, (god cabs)
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> That's all I've got. I have no  noise gates, no EQ,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> (Because
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> know how to work with them.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> First of all, when i crank up the input, There's a big
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hissing
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> in
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> the background, even when i'm not playing. It looks like
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> regular
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> hissing sound, but it's just too loud, and I want to cut
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> this
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> off,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> could record without any  hissing noises.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Second, I think the sound is having a little bit of fuz,
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> not
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> too
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> warm for me.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> I want to try to  achieve that big,  smooth warm sound
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> electric
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> guitar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Here's a simple test that you can hear
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> https://dl.dropboxusercontent.com/u/87868354/Hadi_guitar_tone_test.mp3
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Also, by the way, as you see, my  vollume is kind of..
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> low.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> if
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> try
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> raise reaper's master vollume, or the track vollume, i
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> very
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> bad
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> buzzing sound on the guitar.
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Can anyone help me with this?
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>>
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>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Sincerely,
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Keith
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>>>>>> Home Phone:
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