[RWP] Automation

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Wed May 28 23:20:45 EDT 2014


Oh god, now I remember, that's the part that drove me bat shit.


On 5/28/2014 10:11 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
> As long as you overright the audomation that previously existed.
> Think of the automation as audio on a tape
> You can record wherever, but once you punch out, things go back to 
> where they were.
>
> On 5/28/2014 9:35 PM, Jim Snowbarger wrote:
>> So, you can't edit the automation.  but, once you lay down automation 
>> for a track, and don't like how it turned out, can you go back and 
>> just redo it from scratch?
>>
>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Lane" <derek at pdaudio.net>
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 7:12 PM
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Automation
>>
>>
>>> I have a bcf2000, and really like it.
>>> Once you set it to mackie universal control, you're set.
>>> This is done by pressing the top left button in the bank of 16 
>>> buttons, while turning the power on.
>>> Turn the bcf off again, and then back on, and you're in universal 
>>> control mode.
>>> However, we have no means of editing automation at this point, so 
>>> although volume/pan/etc. can be automated, its almost impossible to 
>>> make any changes after the fact.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger" 
>>> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:47 PM
>>> Subject: [RWP] Automation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Speaking of this fade curve issue. How are people fairing with the 
>>>> BCF2000, and the ability to record fader movements on the fly?
>>>> I know we talked a bunch about this automation thing a while back, 
>>>> and I lost track of where we are.  Does anybody her have a BCf, or 
>>>> BCR?  What are your experiences with that?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Lane" <derek at pdaudio.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Just my opinion, ducking and reacomp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There is a look ahead parameter as part of reacomp, which takes 
>>>>> care of that.
>>>>> However, I've used splitting items, each at different volumes, and 
>>>>> growing/shrinking them to get the exact timing and curve I want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger" 
>>>>> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Just my opinion, ducking and reacomp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But, of course, if you want the slow duck to start ahead of the 
>>>>>> voice, so the music is already down by the time speech starts, 
>>>>>> you have a more complicated situation.
>>>>>> You can probabl bring delays into the circuit to achieve that.    
>>>>>> But, manual ducking really does lend itself to a more flexible 
>>>>>> profile.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheOreoMonster" 
>>>>>> <TheOreoMonster at reaperacc.es>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:02 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Just my opinion, ducking and reacomp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Play with the attack and release times, attack set how quickly 
>>>>>>> the compressor kicks in, and release how quickly it kicks off.
>>>>>>> On May 26, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe I'm not doing something right, but I find that using a 
>>>>>>>> compressor to duck down a music track while a voice track is 
>>>>>>>> going just doesn't sound as natural as a manual do it yourself 
>>>>>>>> good oale fassioned fade down, like you can make with sound 
>>>>>>>> forge. To me, manually fading down music while talking and 
>>>>>>>> fading it back up cannot be beat using an automated plugin. I 
>>>>>>>> find that reacomp fades the music down way too quickly, and 
>>>>>>>> then fades it up so quickly that it's not even noticable. 
>>>>>>>> Again, maybe I'm not doing something right. Any thoughts on this?
>>>>>>>>
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