[RWP] Automation

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Wed May 28 20:49:43 EDT 2014


Yup, sonar will let you delete automation globally
on tracks and busses at any gibven spot, but you don't always want to do 
that, so my trick is to re-import the audio and put it on another bus or 
track.

Delete that existing track.

That thing of reapers not staying put where you left it just drives me 
to distraction.

But it is what it is,
and that's why we do our item based fake automation with slicing and dicing.


On 5/28/2014 7:35 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
> You can... kind of.
> I say that because you can either delete the content of your project 
> where the automation exists, or go before the offending automation 
> movements and perform an action called something like write current 
> values from cursor to end of project.
> The downside to doing that is that you have a situation where you 
> can't make any changes in the project which stick after they are made 
> because automation is only overwritten when its being written/latched 
> etc.
>
> In other words, if after performing this action to correct an error, 
> you have a situation where, given a chance, volumes/panning etc. will 
> just boink back to where your values were set where the values were 
> initially written.
> The way to sort that is to place your cursor at the point just before 
> things jump, then do another pass writing values from  the cursor to 
> the end.
> This as of reaaccess version latest.whatever, and reaper version 3.78
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Chris Belle" <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 8:25 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Automation
>
>
>> You can't even delete it and start again?
>>
>>
>> On 5/28/2014 7:12 PM, Derek Lane wrote:
>>> I have a bcf2000, and really like it.
>>> Once you set it to mackie universal control, you're set.
>>> This is done by pressing the top left button in the bank of 16 
>>> buttons, while turning the power on.
>>> Turn the bcf off again, and then back on, and you're in universal 
>>> control mode.
>>> However, we have no means of editing automation at this point, so 
>>> although volume/pan/etc. can be automated, its almost impossible to 
>>> make any changes after the fact.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger" 
>>> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>> Sent: Wednesday, May 28, 2014 6:47 PM
>>> Subject: [RWP] Automation
>>>
>>>
>>>> Speaking of this fade curve issue. How are people fairing with the 
>>>> BCF2000, and the ability to record fader movements on the fly?
>>>> I know we talked a bunch about this automation thing a while back, 
>>>> and I lost track of where we are.  Does anybody her have a BCf, or 
>>>> BCR?  What are your experiences with that?
>>>>
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Derek Lane" <derek at pdaudio.net>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 10:32 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Just my opinion, ducking and reacomp
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> There is a look ahead parameter as part of reacomp, which takes 
>>>>> care of that.
>>>>> However, I've used splitting items, each at different volumes, and 
>>>>> growing/shrinking them to get the exact timing and curve I want.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Jim Snowbarger" 
>>>>> <Snowman at SnowmanRadio.com>
>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 11:00 PM
>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Just my opinion, ducking and reacomp
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>>> But, of course, if you want the slow duck to start ahead of the 
>>>>>> voice, so the music is already down by the time speech starts, 
>>>>>> you have a more complicated situation.
>>>>>> You can probabl bring delays into the circuit to achieve that.    
>>>>>> But, manual ducking really does lend itself to a more flexible 
>>>>>> profile.
>>>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "TheOreoMonster" 
>>>>>> <TheOreoMonster at reaperacc.es>
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Sent: Tuesday, May 27, 2014 8:02 PM
>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Just my opinion, ducking and reacomp
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Play with the attack and release times, attack set how quickly 
>>>>>>> the compressor kicks in, and release how quickly it kicks off.
>>>>>>> On May 26, 2014, at 2:16 PM, Jes <jessmith at samobile.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hi all.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Maybe I'm not doing something right, but I find that using a 
>>>>>>>> compressor to duck down a music track while a voice track is 
>>>>>>>> going just doesn't sound as natural as a manual do it yourself 
>>>>>>>> good oale fassioned fade down, like you can make with sound 
>>>>>>>> forge. To me, manually fading down music while talking and 
>>>>>>>> fading it back up cannot be beat using an automated plugin. I 
>>>>>>>> find that reacomp fades the music down way too quickly, and 
>>>>>>>> then fades it up so quickly that it's not even noticable. 
>>>>>>>> Again, maybe I'm not doing something right. Any thoughts on this?
>>>>>>>>
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