[RWP] Impulse cabinet responses

Sat May 17 11:49:05 EDT 2014

That's right though. I myself really do not have so much that time to 
dive in i guess.

On 5/17/2014 8:09 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> Nope, no native access to presets in TH-2 on Windows I'm afraid,
> unless Alex knows something I've missed. I use it by tweaking the
> smart controls exposed with Shift+P, and beyond that get my hands
> dirty in the XML files that specify presets, but man, that's a world
> away from playing guitar, and not a task I go near unless I'm forced
> to. The MIDI info that Overloud support sent Roy looked very complete,
> so someone could probably build a nice interface for controlling it
> externally, but that someone isn't me. I A) don't have the programming
> chops, and B) struggle to find the motivation to learn such things
> when there's work to be done.
>
> On 5/17/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>> Scot, how is th2 on windows. is it like Native guitar instruments which
>> you can access a limited number of presets through reaper? It seems to
>> have a mesa boogi simulation amp. I'm a big fan of mesa boogi amps,
>> wondering if th2 simulates it  great.
>>
>> On 5/17/2014 2:58 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>> Been out at a gig but I can see Alex took the reigns, thanks man.
>>>
>>> I'd definitely second his recommendation of starting with the Kuassa
>>> stuff. Their plugs are cheap, solid all in one solutions for when you
>>> just want to pick up and play quickly, and the presets are all pretty
>>> usable. A lot less hassle to use than TH-2 and under half the price
>>> last time I looked.
>>>
>>> Nice tip on decreasing the FFT size in ReaVerb Patrick, got it working
>>> reasonably well in real-time now. Hurrah!
>>>
>>>
>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>> @scot
>>>> Well, i'm actually aiming for live play now. I'm still a  guitar
>>>> beginner, although i sometimes record guitars alongside of my keyboard,
>>>> but Mainly i'm going to use amp sims for live practice and playing,
>>>> untill maybe i buy a physical amp.
>>>> Currently i have an Ibanez electric guitar, connected to my EMU-1212m
>>>> via a vox cable. and i run reaper on the PC.
>>>> Are there any loaders or plugins you recommend for live processing? how
>>>> is th2 on windows. is it worth buying? or the  latter one you mentioned,
>>>> kuassa.
>>>> Regarding the drive plugins, I actually have to find one. I think they
>>>> are also called screemTube simulators. they will be awesome if I find
>>>> one  that works well.
>>>> Also, thank you for putting the signal example on order. I can visualize
>>>> it better.
>>>> @paul, is waves IR free? does it work with JAWS.
>>>> I have to try it then. This is going to be a heavy task, I need to
>>>> fumble around and try different plugins and find accessible ones and
>>>> settle down with the ones that I like. this is going to be very hard.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/16/2014 8:32 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>> If you happen to have Waves IR, that plugin is much better for real
>>>>> time use. You can try decreasing the FFt size in ReaVerb, which will
>>>>> decrease latency at cost of processing quality.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/16/2014 10:23 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>> Yay, glad it's at least half working.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Ah, I kind of misunderstood the stage of the creative process you were
>>>>>> aiming to use this for. What gear are you recording with? Reason I ask
>>>>>> is that this method of using IRs usually performs pretty badly here
>>>>>> when I monitor it in real-time. It's more the sort of thing that's
>>>>>> useful to apply after you've recorded when you're sculpting the guitar
>>>>>> sound in a mix. I think there are impulse loaders that do a better job
>>>>>> of the real-time stuff than ReaVerb if that's what you need, but
>>>>>> someone else would have to chime in and suggest an accessible option
>>>>>> because I haven't gone beyond ReaVerb with this. For tracking in
>>>>>> real-time, I usually go with a sound I'm happy with from TH-2 or more
>>>>>> recently the Kuassa plugs, then I focus on the cab impulses after
>>>>>> during the mix.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> As for your second question, if it's metal tones you're shooting for,
>>>>>> pretty much everyone playing that genre nowadays puts some flavour of
>>>>>> drive in the signal chain before the guitar hits their preamp when
>>>>>> using real gear. There are plenty of plugins out there that emulate
>>>>>> the characteristics of those drive pedals. TSE Audio have a pretty
>>>>>> good Tube Screamer emulation that was free if I remember right, so
>>>>>> Google for a copy of that and put it before the amp sim. Just to be
>>>>>> certain I haven't confused you, you'll probably want to go guitar,
>>>>>> drive, amp sim, then cab impulse last.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let us know how you get on
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Scot
>>>>>>> I've done the instructions, and it seems i'm getting the IRS signal
>>>>>>> now.
>>>>>>> cool!
>>>>>>> The sound still has some problems though. i'm very unprofessional
>>>>>>> when
>>>>>>> it comes to guitar amps and signals, and i always used to play with
>>>>>>> native guitar presets.
>>>>>>> I'll describe the two problems, can you explain what needs to be
>>>>>>> added?
>>>>>>> 1: When i play the guitar, it has still cracking sounds in it, like
>>>>>>> little  buzzing sound in the sound. it's totally unclean.
>>>>>>> 2: it sounds like that the signal is weak, so i have to hit very
>>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>>> get that metal sound that i need. Is this because i need some kind of
>>>>>>> filter?
>>>>>>> If you need i can record the sound and show it to you.
>>>>>>> Thanks for helping!
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/16/2014 5:28 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>> Ah, sounds like ReaVerb needs a little extra encouragement. Once
>>>>>>>> you've loaded the IR, come out of the fx window and use Shift+P to
>>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>>> to the automation controls. The top two parameters there should be
>>>>>>>> called Dry and Wet. Dry is the level of unaffected signal that
>>>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>>>> hear, wet is after the IR has been applied to the signal. At a
>>>>>>>> guess,
>>>>>>>> ReaVerb is still playing you the unaffected dry sound, so crank up
>>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>> Wet control and drop the Dry down until you can't hear the
>>>>>>>> unprocessed
>>>>>>>> sound anymore.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If that doesn't work, shout and I'll attempt it at this end to see
>>>>>>>> what's missing from the instructions. This is all from memory so
>>>>>>>> far,
>>>>>>>> and my memory isn't the best lol.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi scot
>>>>>>>>> So, from your explanations, i get that there are plugins that will
>>>>>>>>> load
>>>>>>>>> IRS for you.
>>>>>>>>> I've got an IRS to test here,, but i had no luck since now, with
>>>>>>>>> reaverb.
>>>>>>>>> I have added my amp sim into my effects, then add vst: ReaVerb.
>>>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>>>> add button for reaverb appears.
>>>>>>>>>      From the dropdown, i chose the file item, then  found my .wav
>>>>>>>>> file and
>>>>>>>>> openned it.
>>>>>>>>> Now what i should be doing? i hit the strings and still i'm
>>>>>>>>> getting the
>>>>>>>>> amp sim without ANY IRS.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/2014 5:03 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> The simplest way to get started with this is to go Googling for
>>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>>> IRs, then use your favourite convolution plugin to load them and
>>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>>> that after whichever amp sim you're using. Seeing as you've
>>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>> got ReaVerb, that might be the loader to try first. If you tab
>>>>>>>>>> along
>>>>>>>>>> passed the presets combobox etc until you come to an Add button,
>>>>>>>>>> that'll pop up a menu where you can choose an IR to load. It's a
>>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>>> button bashy because you have to manually hit the remove button
>>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>>> hit Add again to load the next IR, so not exactly quick for
>>>>>>>>>> auditioning a bunch of options, but it's fine once you've
>>>>>>>>>> narrowed it
>>>>>>>>>> down to a few decent IRs that are your go-to sounds.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Recab and similar plugins have the advantage that they use dynamic
>>>>>>>>>> libraries, so there's a definite increase in the realism, but you
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> to weigh that up against the hassle of finding an accessible
>>>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>>> Alex H has had some success with Recabinet that involves using
>>>>>>>>>> NVDA's
>>>>>>>>>> OCR addon. I've picked up a license for Recabinet too because I
>>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>>> proper impressed with the stuff he gets out of it, but haven't had
>>>>>>>>>> chance to play around with it yet.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you find that static IRs are good enough for you in the mix
>>>>>>>>>> (honestly, they probably will be unless you've got some serious
>>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>>> chops and taste) and you want to move beyond the free stuff to a
>>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>>> complete collection, I've had good experiences with the stuff from
>>>>>>>>>> OwnHammer.com. His libraries are cheap, nicely organised, and
>>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>>> well captured to my ears. I like them because they seem to strike
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>>> good balance between sounding natural but still being fairly
>>>>>>>>>> close to
>>>>>>>>>> mix-ready compared to the other popular libraries I tried.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hth
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> Hello guys
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Can someone who is familiar with guitar amp sims and all of that
>>>>>>>>>>> stuff,
>>>>>>>>>>> help me to find an impulse cabinet response?
>>>>>>>>>>> I want to break away from native guitar instruments presets, so
>>>>>>>>>>> i have
>>>>>>>>>>> downloaded some AMP sims, (lepu plugins), but i currently do not
>>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>>> any IRS.
>>>>>>>>>>> I have tried  poulin recab, but the  problem is that my reaper
>>>>>>>>>>> crashes
>>>>>>>>>>> when i  scroll down the list o its settings, (Shift+P)
>>>>>>>>>>> and it's the only plugin that crashes my reaper like that.
>>>>>>>>>>> Can  someone  guide me through this? i'm lost abit.
>>>>>>>>>>> I'm doing google searches, and there are two types of IRS, one
>>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>>> plugins, and one being wav files. that's what makes me so
>>>>>>>>>>> confused.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> So if you got a good setup with some good  cabinet sims, please
>>>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>>> how can i do it as well.
>>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>>
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