[RWP] Impulse cabinet responses

Sat May 17 11:39:29 EDT 2014

Nope, no native access to presets in TH-2 on Windows I'm afraid,
unless Alex knows something I've missed. I use it by tweaking the
smart controls exposed with Shift+P, and beyond that get my hands
dirty in the XML files that specify presets, but man, that's a world
away from playing guitar, and not a task I go near unless I'm forced
to. The MIDI info that Overloud support sent Roy looked very complete,
so someone could probably build a nice interface for controlling it
externally, but that someone isn't me. I A) don't have the programming
chops, and B) struggle to find the motivation to learn such things
when there's work to be done.

On 5/17/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
> Scot, how is th2 on windows. is it like Native guitar instruments which
> you can access a limited number of presets through reaper? It seems to
> have a mesa boogi simulation amp. I'm a big fan of mesa boogi amps,
> wondering if th2 simulates it  great.
>
> On 5/17/2014 2:58 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Been out at a gig but I can see Alex took the reigns, thanks man.
>>
>> I'd definitely second his recommendation of starting with the Kuassa
>> stuff. Their plugs are cheap, solid all in one solutions for when you
>> just want to pick up and play quickly, and the presets are all pretty
>> usable. A lot less hassle to use than TH-2 and under half the price
>> last time I looked.
>>
>> Nice tip on decreasing the FFT size in ReaVerb Patrick, got it working
>> reasonably well in real-time now. Hurrah!
>>
>>
>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>> @scot
>>> Well, i'm actually aiming for live play now. I'm still a  guitar
>>> beginner, although i sometimes record guitars alongside of my keyboard,
>>> but Mainly i'm going to use amp sims for live practice and playing,
>>> untill maybe i buy a physical amp.
>>> Currently i have an Ibanez electric guitar, connected to my EMU-1212m
>>> via a vox cable. and i run reaper on the PC.
>>> Are there any loaders or plugins you recommend for live processing? how
>>> is th2 on windows. is it worth buying? or the  latter one you mentioned,
>>> kuassa.
>>> Regarding the drive plugins, I actually have to find one. I think they
>>> are also called screemTube simulators. they will be awesome if I find
>>> one  that works well.
>>> Also, thank you for putting the signal example on order. I can visualize
>>> it better.
>>> @paul, is waves IR free? does it work with JAWS.
>>> I have to try it then. This is going to be a heavy task, I need to
>>> fumble around and try different plugins and find accessible ones and
>>> settle down with the ones that I like. this is going to be very hard.
>>>
>>> On 5/16/2014 8:32 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>> If you happen to have Waves IR, that plugin is much better for real
>>>> time use. You can try decreasing the FFt size in ReaVerb, which will
>>>> decrease latency at cost of processing quality.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/16/2014 10:23 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>> Yay, glad it's at least half working.
>>>>>
>>>>> Ah, I kind of misunderstood the stage of the creative process you were
>>>>> aiming to use this for. What gear are you recording with? Reason I ask
>>>>> is that this method of using IRs usually performs pretty badly here
>>>>> when I monitor it in real-time. It's more the sort of thing that's
>>>>> useful to apply after you've recorded when you're sculpting the guitar
>>>>> sound in a mix. I think there are impulse loaders that do a better job
>>>>> of the real-time stuff than ReaVerb if that's what you need, but
>>>>> someone else would have to chime in and suggest an accessible option
>>>>> because I haven't gone beyond ReaVerb with this. For tracking in
>>>>> real-time, I usually go with a sound I'm happy with from TH-2 or more
>>>>> recently the Kuassa plugs, then I focus on the cab impulses after
>>>>> during the mix.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for your second question, if it's metal tones you're shooting for,
>>>>> pretty much everyone playing that genre nowadays puts some flavour of
>>>>> drive in the signal chain before the guitar hits their preamp when
>>>>> using real gear. There are plenty of plugins out there that emulate
>>>>> the characteristics of those drive pedals. TSE Audio have a pretty
>>>>> good Tube Screamer emulation that was free if I remember right, so
>>>>> Google for a copy of that and put it before the amp sim. Just to be
>>>>> certain I haven't confused you, you'll probably want to go guitar,
>>>>> drive, amp sim, then cab impulse last.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let us know how you get on
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi Scot
>>>>>> I've done the instructions, and it seems i'm getting the IRS signal
>>>>>> now.
>>>>>> cool!
>>>>>> The sound still has some problems though. i'm very unprofessional
>>>>>> when
>>>>>> it comes to guitar amps and signals, and i always used to play with
>>>>>> native guitar presets.
>>>>>> I'll describe the two problems, can you explain what needs to be
>>>>>> added?
>>>>>> 1: When i play the guitar, it has still cracking sounds in it, like
>>>>>> little  buzzing sound in the sound. it's totally unclean.
>>>>>> 2: it sounds like that the signal is weak, so i have to hit very
>>>>>> hard to
>>>>>> get that metal sound that i need. Is this because i need some kind of
>>>>>> filter?
>>>>>> If you need i can record the sound and show it to you.
>>>>>> Thanks for helping!
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/16/2014 5:28 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>> Ah, sounds like ReaVerb needs a little extra encouragement. Once
>>>>>>> you've loaded the IR, come out of the fx window and use Shift+P to
>>>>>>> get
>>>>>>> to the automation controls. The top two parameters there should be
>>>>>>> called Dry and Wet. Dry is the level of unaffected signal that
>>>>>>> you'll
>>>>>>> hear, wet is after the IR has been applied to the signal. At a
>>>>>>> guess,
>>>>>>> ReaVerb is still playing you the unaffected dry sound, so crank up
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> Wet control and drop the Dry down until you can't hear the
>>>>>>> unprocessed
>>>>>>> sound anymore.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> If that doesn't work, shout and I'll attempt it at this end to see
>>>>>>> what's missing from the instructions. This is all from memory so
>>>>>>> far,
>>>>>>> and my memory isn't the best lol.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi scot
>>>>>>>> So, from your explanations, i get that there are plugins that will
>>>>>>>> load
>>>>>>>> IRS for you.
>>>>>>>> I've got an IRS to test here,, but i had no luck since now, with
>>>>>>>> reaverb.
>>>>>>>> I have added my amp sim into my effects, then add vst: ReaVerb.
>>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>>> add button for reaverb appears.
>>>>>>>>     From the dropdown, i chose the file item, then  found my .wav
>>>>>>>> file and
>>>>>>>> openned it.
>>>>>>>> Now what i should be doing? i hit the strings and still i'm
>>>>>>>> getting the
>>>>>>>> amp sim without ANY IRS.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/16/2014 5:03 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>>> The simplest way to get started with this is to go Googling for
>>>>>>>>> free
>>>>>>>>> IRs, then use your favourite convolution plugin to load them and
>>>>>>>>> put
>>>>>>>>> that after whichever amp sim you're using. Seeing as you've
>>>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>> got ReaVerb, that might be the loader to try first. If you tab
>>>>>>>>> along
>>>>>>>>> passed the presets combobox etc until you come to an Add button,
>>>>>>>>> that'll pop up a menu where you can choose an IR to load. It's a
>>>>>>>>> bit
>>>>>>>>> button bashy because you have to manually hit the remove button
>>>>>>>>> then
>>>>>>>>> hit Add again to load the next IR, so not exactly quick for
>>>>>>>>> auditioning a bunch of options, but it's fine once you've
>>>>>>>>> narrowed it
>>>>>>>>> down to a few decent IRs that are your go-to sounds.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Recab and similar plugins have the advantage that they use dynamic
>>>>>>>>> libraries, so there's a definite increase in the realism, but you
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> to weigh that up against the hassle of finding an accessible
>>>>>>>>> option.
>>>>>>>>> Alex H has had some success with Recabinet that involves using
>>>>>>>>> NVDA's
>>>>>>>>> OCR addon. I've picked up a license for Recabinet too because I
>>>>>>>>> was
>>>>>>>>> proper impressed with the stuff he gets out of it, but haven't had
>>>>>>>>> chance to play around with it yet.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you find that static IRs are good enough for you in the mix
>>>>>>>>> (honestly, they probably will be unless you've got some serious
>>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>>> chops and taste) and you want to move beyond the free stuff to a
>>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>>> complete collection, I've had good experiences with the stuff from
>>>>>>>>> OwnHammer.com. His libraries are cheap, nicely organised, and
>>>>>>>>> sound
>>>>>>>>> well captured to my ears. I like them because they seem to strike
>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>>>> good balance between sounding natural but still being fairly
>>>>>>>>> close to
>>>>>>>>> mix-ready compared to the other popular libraries I tried.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hth
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> Hello guys
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Can someone who is familiar with guitar amp sims and all of that
>>>>>>>>>> stuff,
>>>>>>>>>> help me to find an impulse cabinet response?
>>>>>>>>>> I want to break away from native guitar instruments presets, so
>>>>>>>>>> i have
>>>>>>>>>> downloaded some AMP sims, (lepu plugins), but i currently do not
>>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>>> any IRS.
>>>>>>>>>> I have tried  poulin recab, but the  problem is that my reaper
>>>>>>>>>> crashes
>>>>>>>>>> when i  scroll down the list o its settings, (Shift+P)
>>>>>>>>>> and it's the only plugin that crashes my reaper like that.
>>>>>>>>>> Can  someone  guide me through this? i'm lost abit.
>>>>>>>>>> I'm doing google searches, and there are two types of IRS, one
>>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>>> plugins, and one being wav files. that's what makes me so
>>>>>>>>>> confused.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> So if you got a good setup with some good  cabinet sims, please
>>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>>> how can i do it as well.
>>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>>
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