[RWP] Impulse cabinet responses

Hadi Rezaei hadirezaei at gmx.com
Sat May 17 11:16:03 EDT 2014 

Scot, how is th2 on windows. is it like Native guitar instruments which 
you can access a limited number of presets through reaper? It seems to 
have a mesa boogi simulation amp. I'm a big fan of mesa boogi amps, 
wondering if th2 simulates it  great.

On 5/17/2014 2:58 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> Been out at a gig but I can see Alex took the reigns, thanks man.
>
> I'd definitely second his recommendation of starting with the Kuassa
> stuff. Their plugs are cheap, solid all in one solutions for when you
> just want to pick up and play quickly, and the presets are all pretty
> usable. A lot less hassle to use than TH-2 and under half the price
> last time I looked.
>
> Nice tip on decreasing the FFT size in ReaVerb Patrick, got it working
> reasonably well in real-time now. Hurrah!
>
>
> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>> @scot
>> Well, i'm actually aiming for live play now. I'm still a  guitar
>> beginner, although i sometimes record guitars alongside of my keyboard,
>> but Mainly i'm going to use amp sims for live practice and playing,
>> untill maybe i buy a physical amp.
>> Currently i have an Ibanez electric guitar, connected to my EMU-1212m
>> via a vox cable. and i run reaper on the PC.
>> Are there any loaders or plugins you recommend for live processing? how
>> is th2 on windows. is it worth buying? or the  latter one you mentioned,
>> kuassa.
>> Regarding the drive plugins, I actually have to find one. I think they
>> are also called screemTube simulators. they will be awesome if I find
>> one  that works well.
>> Also, thank you for putting the signal example on order. I can visualize
>> it better.
>> @paul, is waves IR free? does it work with JAWS.
>> I have to try it then. This is going to be a heavy task, I need to
>> fumble around and try different plugins and find accessible ones and
>> settle down with the ones that I like. this is going to be very hard.
>>
>> On 5/16/2014 8:32 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>> If you happen to have Waves IR, that plugin is much better for real
>>> time use. You can try decreasing the FFt size in ReaVerb, which will
>>> decrease latency at cost of processing quality.
>>>
>>> On 5/16/2014 10:23 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>> Yay, glad it's at least half working.
>>>>
>>>> Ah, I kind of misunderstood the stage of the creative process you were
>>>> aiming to use this for. What gear are you recording with? Reason I ask
>>>> is that this method of using IRs usually performs pretty badly here
>>>> when I monitor it in real-time. It's more the sort of thing that's
>>>> useful to apply after you've recorded when you're sculpting the guitar
>>>> sound in a mix. I think there are impulse loaders that do a better job
>>>> of the real-time stuff than ReaVerb if that's what you need, but
>>>> someone else would have to chime in and suggest an accessible option
>>>> because I haven't gone beyond ReaVerb with this. For tracking in
>>>> real-time, I usually go with a sound I'm happy with from TH-2 or more
>>>> recently the Kuassa plugs, then I focus on the cab impulses after
>>>> during the mix.
>>>>
>>>> As for your second question, if it's metal tones you're shooting for,
>>>> pretty much everyone playing that genre nowadays puts some flavour of
>>>> drive in the signal chain before the guitar hits their preamp when
>>>> using real gear. There are plenty of plugins out there that emulate
>>>> the characteristics of those drive pedals. TSE Audio have a pretty
>>>> good Tube Screamer emulation that was free if I remember right, so
>>>> Google for a copy of that and put it before the amp sim. Just to be
>>>> certain I haven't confused you, you'll probably want to go guitar,
>>>> drive, amp sim, then cab impulse last.
>>>>
>>>> Let us know how you get on
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>> Hi Scot
>>>>> I've done the instructions, and it seems i'm getting the IRS signal
>>>>> now.
>>>>> cool!
>>>>> The sound still has some problems though. i'm very unprofessional when
>>>>> it comes to guitar amps and signals, and i always used to play with
>>>>> native guitar presets.
>>>>> I'll describe the two problems, can you explain what needs to be added?
>>>>> 1: When i play the guitar, it has still cracking sounds in it, like
>>>>> little  buzzing sound in the sound. it's totally unclean.
>>>>> 2: it sounds like that the signal is weak, so i have to hit very
>>>>> hard to
>>>>> get that metal sound that i need. Is this because i need some kind of
>>>>> filter?
>>>>> If you need i can record the sound and show it to you.
>>>>> Thanks for helping!
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/16/2014 5:28 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>> Ah, sounds like ReaVerb needs a little extra encouragement. Once
>>>>>> you've loaded the IR, come out of the fx window and use Shift+P to get
>>>>>> to the automation controls. The top two parameters there should be
>>>>>> called Dry and Wet. Dry is the level of unaffected signal that you'll
>>>>>> hear, wet is after the IR has been applied to the signal. At a guess,
>>>>>> ReaVerb is still playing you the unaffected dry sound, so crank up the
>>>>>> Wet control and drop the Dry down until you can't hear the unprocessed
>>>>>> sound anymore.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> If that doesn't work, shout and I'll attempt it at this end to see
>>>>>> what's missing from the instructions. This is all from memory so far,
>>>>>> and my memory isn't the best lol.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi scot
>>>>>>> So, from your explanations, i get that there are plugins that will
>>>>>>> load
>>>>>>> IRS for you.
>>>>>>> I've got an IRS to test here,, but i had no luck since now, with
>>>>>>> reaverb.
>>>>>>> I have added my amp sim into my effects, then add vst: ReaVerb.
>>>>>>> then the
>>>>>>> add button for reaverb appears.
>>>>>>>     From the dropdown, i chose the file item, then  found my .wav
>>>>>>> file and
>>>>>>> openned it.
>>>>>>> Now what i should be doing? i hit the strings and still i'm
>>>>>>> getting the
>>>>>>> amp sim without ANY IRS.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 5/16/2014 5:03 PM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>>> The simplest way to get started with this is to go Googling for free
>>>>>>>> IRs, then use your favourite convolution plugin to load them and put
>>>>>>>> that after whichever amp sim you're using. Seeing as you've already
>>>>>>>> got ReaVerb, that might be the loader to try first. If you tab along
>>>>>>>> passed the presets combobox etc until you come to an Add button,
>>>>>>>> that'll pop up a menu where you can choose an IR to load. It's a bit
>>>>>>>> button bashy because you have to manually hit the remove button then
>>>>>>>> hit Add again to load the next IR, so not exactly quick for
>>>>>>>> auditioning a bunch of options, but it's fine once you've
>>>>>>>> narrowed it
>>>>>>>> down to a few decent IRs that are your go-to sounds.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Recab and similar plugins have the advantage that they use dynamic
>>>>>>>> libraries, so there's a definite increase in the realism, but you
>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>> to weigh that up against the hassle of finding an accessible option.
>>>>>>>> Alex H has had some success with Recabinet that involves using
>>>>>>>> NVDA's
>>>>>>>> OCR addon. I've picked up a license for Recabinet too because I was
>>>>>>>> proper impressed with the stuff he gets out of it, but haven't had
>>>>>>>> chance to play around with it yet.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you find that static IRs are good enough for you in the mix
>>>>>>>> (honestly, they probably will be unless you've got some serious
>>>>>>>> guitar
>>>>>>>> chops and taste) and you want to move beyond the free stuff to a
>>>>>>>> more
>>>>>>>> complete collection, I've had good experiences with the stuff from
>>>>>>>> OwnHammer.com. His libraries are cheap, nicely organised, and sound
>>>>>>>> well captured to my ears. I like them because they seem to strike a
>>>>>>>> good balance between sounding natural but still being fairly
>>>>>>>> close to
>>>>>>>> mix-ready compared to the other popular libraries I tried.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hth
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Scott
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 5/16/14, Hadi Rezaei <hadirezaei at gmx.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hello guys
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Can someone who is familiar with guitar amp sims and all of that
>>>>>>>>> stuff,
>>>>>>>>> help me to find an impulse cabinet response?
>>>>>>>>> I want to break away from native guitar instruments presets, so
>>>>>>>>> i have
>>>>>>>>> downloaded some AMP sims, (lepu plugins), but i currently do not
>>>>>>>>> have
>>>>>>>>> any IRS.
>>>>>>>>> I have tried  poulin recab, but the  problem is that my reaper
>>>>>>>>> crashes
>>>>>>>>> when i  scroll down the list o its settings, (Shift+P)
>>>>>>>>> and it's the only plugin that crashes my reaper like that.
>>>>>>>>> Can  someone  guide me through this? i'm lost abit.
>>>>>>>>> I'm doing google searches, and there are two types of IRS, one
>>>>>>>>> being
>>>>>>>>> plugins, and one being wav files. that's what makes me so confused.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So if you got a good setup with some good  cabinet sims, please
>>>>>>>>> show
>>>>>>>>> me
>>>>>>>>> how can i do it as well.
>>>>>>>>> Thanks!
>>>>>>>>>
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