[RWP] Reaccess 2?

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Tue May 6 23:41:48 EDT 2014 

Yeh, there's a tool called
dpc latency checker at
www.thesycon.de



On 5/6/2014 3:56 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> Hey Chris,
>
> Yup, saw enough people say that to go a few years back then upgrade
> individual components rather than buy off the shelf. From what I can
> tell, there are people out there using this model who're having better
> luck than me though. Is there a foolproof way of testing DPC that I
> should know about?
>
> Scott
>
> On 5/5/14, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>> On my purpose built dasw here using a jim roseberry machine I can run
>> hundred plus track projects and nvda is lightning fast.
>>
>> So it's that special mac hardware they're so proud of, something doesn't
>> like nvda.
>>
>>
>> On 5/5/2014 5:10 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>> Yup, already got AHCI enabled here, the hack was painless so far as I
>>> remember. Honestly, I can't say I've noticed much difference in terms
>>> of day to day performance, but now I'm wondering how much NVDA is
>>> impairing judgement about that. AHCI being enabled used to lock up the
>>> Boot Camp control panel and also cause a guaranteed crash coming out
>>> of hibernation. In the latest version of Boot Camp (which you have to
>>> grab manually from Apple, they don't seem to have seeded it via
>>> Software Update for some reason), the Boot Camp control panel thingamy
>>> works again. I haven't tried hibernation since then though.
>>>
>>> I'll take SA for a spin this end too.
>>>
>>> Scott
>>>
>>> On 5/5/14, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net> wrote:
>>>> Honestly, I haven't used System Access in a good long time, and not
>>>> really much at all with big mixes. I'll have to try that and see what
>>>> happens.
>>>>
>>>> As a point of interest, the older MacBook Pros and Airs pre 2012, by
>>>> default, are bottle necked in bootcamp, because they don't use AHCI in
>>>> Windows. So, no trim support, IDE emulation, etc. So, your SSD's
>>>> potential is not even closed to being reached as a result.
>>>> There is a hack to change from IDE to AHCI. I haven't tried it myself,
>>>> but I probably will one of these days, unless I get a new MacBook Air
>>>> first.
>>>> Here's the URL for that:
>>>> http://www.ocztechnologyforum.com/forum/showthread.php?87950-Enabling-AHCI-for-Windows-on-MBP-2011-now-possible/page2&s=a72154e2692115ebbd7c3058a69b69ba
>>>> If you're feeling brave, try it before I do, and let me know how it
>>>> goes.
>>>>
>>>> On 5/5/2014 4:05 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>> Woo, Patrick, think you might've just solved a post I was going to
>>>>> send before I've sent it. I'm working on a different machine (a 2011
>>>>> Macbook that I shoved 8GB of RAM and a Samsung 840 Pro SSD in), but
>>>>> it's not running nearly as well as I'd hoped when it comes to larger
>>>>> mixes. As in, noticeably worse than it's predecessor (a 2011 I5 Air
>>>>> with half the RAM and in theory a slower SSD). Only happens on the
>>>>> Windows side, in Mac OS this thing goes like the clappers. Stupidly, I
>>>>> hadn't thought of trying a different screen reader when it acts up.
>>>>> Just assumed that because NVDA is lightning quick at the start of the
>>>>> day it'll always be that way.
>>>>>
>>>>> Have you tried System Access under heavy load? How does it do in
>>>>> comparison to JAWS? I haven't missed JAWS yet since installing
>>>>> everything on here, was actually thinking of selling my license on, so
>>>>> don't really want to add it if avoidable.
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks for any thoughts man
>>>>>
>>>>> Scott
>>>>>
>>>>> On 5/5/14, Patrick Perdue <patrick at pdaudio.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I use NVDA, as I find it to be the most responsive. I have also used
>>>>>> Jaws and System Access.
>>>>>> Where NVDA does fall flat on it's face, however, is under heavy CPU
>>>>>> loads. Jaws is better at this, but falls short in other ways to make
>>>>>> up
>>>>>> for it.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Regarding sends and Reaper 4.x, this is partially true. It's not as
>>>>>> easy
>>>>>> to edit order of sends, although you can change properties of each
>>>>>> send,
>>>>>> like pre/post FX, mono/stereo, pan/gain, etc.
>>>>>> Things get a little messy when you have a bunch of sends from one
>>>>>> track,
>>>>>> or receives to a track (same thing in reverse, really,) and you want
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> just delete one of them. It's easy enough to delete the last send you
>>>>>> added, but more is required to make others go away without making the
>>>>>> whole thing die and starting over.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 5/4/2014 11:26 PM, John Chilelli wrote:
>>>>>>> Hi Patrick,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Been away for a little while as you can see by my reply to an old
>>>>>>> post
>>>>>>> from
>>>>>>> you.  So may I ask, what screen reader do you use with Reaper and
>>>>>>> reaccess?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Also, here is a reply I got from Kerry at the Cisco training school
>>>>>>> where
>>>>>>> it
>>>>>>> is recommended for their students to somehow use Reaper 3.78 and
>>>>>>> Reaccess.
>>>>>>> I told him what you wrote to me concerning using Reaper 4.16.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Kerry replied:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> "Control up-arrow does give you access to the right click menus
>>>>>>> however
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>> sends and returns matrixes are not easily usable in 4.16.
>>>>>>> You can build the matrix but can not edit it.
>>>>>>> Regards, Kerry."
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Can one build and edit the matrix (whatever that is) using NVDA?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Thanks for all of your help for this reall greenhorne,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> John
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
>>>>>>> Perdue
>>>>>>> 	Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 6:34 PM
>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaccess 2?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You need to copy the relevant files for ReaAccess from a working
>>>>>>> 32-bit
>>>>>>> install, or find a way to extract them from the ReaAccess installer.
>>>>>>> In my case, NVDAControlerClient32.dll and ReaperAccess.dll are the
>>>>>>> two
>>>>>>> files
>>>>>>> I need. This may be different depending on your screen reader.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 6:29 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>>>> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Hello,
>>>>>>>> So how do you get the 32 bit to run on the 64 bit?
>>>>>>>> I got the 64 Bit working, but I would like to switch over to the 32
>>>>>>>> bit.
>>>>>>>> How do I do that?
>>>>>>>> Do I just install the 32 bit and open it?
>>>>>>>> thanks,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 4/11/2014 3:02 PM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Just that, for maximum plugin compatibility.
>>>>>>>>> You'll hit some limitations of 32-bit if you start playing with
>>>>>>>>> large
>>>>>>> sample libraries and such, so it's not a bad idea to have both.
>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 5:11 PM, John Chilelli <jc.pr2511 at gmail.com>
>>>>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Hmmm.  I wonder why in the CAVI, Cisco Vision Wicki for Audio
>>>>>>>>>> Editing
>>>>>>>>>> Fundamentals you find the following recommendations on what
>>>>>>>>>> learning
>>>>>>> tools
>>>>>>>>>> students need to have.:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> "...The programs explicitly taught and supported by the course is
>>>>>>>>>> below:
>>>>>>>>>> Reaper 3.78
>>>>>>>>>> A powerful multi-track editor that comes in   32 or 64-bit. An
>>>>>>> evaluation
>>>>>>>>>> copy is
>>>>>>>>>> available and the standard user license is $60. We prefer that you
>>>>>>>>>> use
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> 32-bit
>>>>>>>>>> version for maximum plug-in compatibility.
>>>>>>>>>> Reaccess
>>>>>>>>>> an important accessibility add-in for Reaper.
>>>>>>>>>> Goldwave,
>>>>>>>>>> the single track editor we use in class, either the infinite
>>>>>>>>>> license
>>>>>>>>>> or
>>>>>>> 1
>>>>>>>>>> year trial
>>>>>>>>>> for $20."
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>>>>>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Patrick
>>>>>>>>>> Perdue
>>>>>>>>>> Sent: Friday, April 11, 2014 2:34 PM
>>>>>>>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>>>>>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Reaccess 2?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> First of all, do you need to use anything that explicitly requires
>>>>>>> 32-bit
>>>>>>>>>> reaper, I.E. old DirectX plugins? If not, then just use the 64-bit
>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> of Reaper. I still use some plugins that won't run on a 64-bit
>>>>>>>>>> host,
>>>>>>>>>> so
>>>>>>> I
>>>>>>>>>> use the 32-bit version, even on Windows 7 64.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, you can technically use the latest version of Reaper with the
>>>>>>> current
>>>>>>>>>> version of ReaAccess, with some caveats that don't exist with 3.x
>>>>>>> versions,
>>>>>>>>>> mainly related to the track view and some context menus.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:28 PM, Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>>>>>>> <brandonkeithbiggs at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 	Hello,
>>>>>>>>>> 	So, I want to run the 32 Bit reaper on my 64 bit Windows 7.
>>>>>>>>>> 	Should I first install the 64 bit, install Rea Access, then
>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>> Reaper 32 bit?
>>>>>>>>>> 	Or how can I install the 32 bit on my 64 bit system?
>>>>>>>>>> 	
>>>>>>>>>> 	Also, Can I use the latest version of reaper with the latest
>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> of Rea Access?
>>>>>>>>>> 	thank you,
>>>>>>>>>> 	
>>>>>>>>>> 	
>>>>>>>>>> 	Brandon Keith Biggs
>>>>>>>>>> 	On 4/11/2014 11:10 AM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> 	
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 		John:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 		Let me guess. You are running a 64-bit operating system, and
>>>>>>>>>> you installed the 32-bit version of Reaper v3.78?
>>>>>>>>>> 		The ReaAccess installer doesn't take into account that you
>>>>>>>>>> might actually want to use that configuration, and thus, won't
>>>>>>>>>> install
>>>>>>>>>> unless you use the 64-bit Reaper, then run the installer again.
>>>>>>>>>> 		There is a work-around for this, which involves manually
>>>>>>>>>> copying a few files and importing the ReaAccess keymap, if you
>>>>>>>>>> don't
>>>>>>> already
>>>>>>>>>> have the 64-bit Reaper+ReaAccess installed.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 		As for ReaAccess 2, that was supposed to happen three years
>>>>>>>>>> ago, and it's creator seems to have jumped off the edge of the
>>>>>>>>>> flat
>>>>>>> world,
>>>>>>>>>> providing no source code for anyone to play with, so the current
>>>>>>>>>> version
>>>>>>>>>> (1.30) is the latest that exists, until another solution comes
>>>>>>>>>> along.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 		On Apr 11, 2014, at 2:11 PM, John Chilelli
>>>>>>>>>> <jc.pr2511 at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 			<image001.gif>
>>>>>>>>>> 			Hi all,
>>>>>>>>>> 			
>>>>>>>>>> 			I downloaded the recommended version of Reaper 3.78
>>>>>>>>>> for the CAVI Audio Fundamentals class coming up in July sometime.
>>>>>>>>>> 			
>>>>>>>>>> 			Clicking on the Reaccess link on the Cisco Vision
>>>>>>>>>> site produced nothing.  After Googling for Reaccess, I was brought
>>>>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> a
>>>>>>> page
>>>>>>>>>> that promises a newly updated reaccess and support.  After
>>>>>>>>>> clicking
>>>>>>>>>> on
>>>>>>> the
>>>>>>>>>> download reaccess link, I am told that "some components are
>>>>>>>>>> missing"
>>>>>>>>>> and
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>>>>> please start and close reaper.  I've done that several times
>>>>>>>>>> before
>>>>>>> again
>>>>>>>>>> retrying to install reaccess 2, whereupon I am told again that
>>>>>>>>>> there
>>>>>>>>>> are
>>>>>>>>>> some components missing and to please start and close Reaper.
>>>>>>>>>> 			
>>>>>>>>>> 			Any ideas on what I am missing.  I am currently
>>>>>>>>>> running an evaluation copy of Reaper on a 64 bit I3, 8gb machine
>>>>>>>>>> running
>>>>>>>>>> Windows 7.
>>>>>>>>>> 			
>>>>>>>>>> 			Thanks,
>>>>>>>>>> 			
>>>>>>>>>> 			John
>>>>>>>>>> 			
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