[RWP] I need all of your input, please. Abandoning Reaper vs. ProTools, should I stay or go?

Chris Belle cb1963 at sbcglobal.net
Sat Jul 12 20:36:18 EDT 2014


Barring differences in work clock, which can afect you even with 
different systems running the same daw, if you export your wav stems 
correctly, all from bar 0, then everything should come in at the same time.

I have sent many project individual tracks this way, and had no problems.

There is a universal file format,
which many daws share,
the omf format which can be used.

It does have some limitations though.

If you want close collaboration with someone and wanting to do it all 
the same, same plugs, same type of automation, so on and so forth, then 
using the same daw is probably best.

but wav stems exported correctly should get you by in most casual 
working cases, after all,
this is how multi-tracks are distributed all over the place, I've always 
seen them as wav archives,
or aif  24 bit, sometimes with broadcast time stamps, but if your clock 
is reasonable and you export correctly, you shouldn't have to nudge 
anything that much.

The only reason i mention clock sources is that I have on acasion gotten 
mixes from rappers,
which even though they are supposed to be at a certain tempo they will 
drift a bit on bar lines when imported in to sonar, and I have to hand 
roll a few tempo markers to keep things lined up really tightly, but god 
knows where they came from, or what the beats were made on, somebody's 
mac with internal sound card, or an external box with a dodgy timing chip,
again, this kind of goes away when you get past a certain level of using 
junky hardware,
but even on any given device, all the wavs should line up if they are 
exported from the same spot, it's like tape,
that way, if you don't take a chunk out of any of the wavs, and you have 
a real time starting point, usually 0, then your good to go.



On 7/12/2014 5:07 PM, Jes wrote:
> Great points guys! Kevin, like you, I love System Access and it works 
> great with Reaper and reaaccess. Now, let's talk about collaboration 
> between Reaper and ProTools. Reaper, as we all know, saves projects in 
> .rpp files. ProTools saves its projects in its own proprietary format. 
> I'm not sure how people who work in both daws can realisticly 
> collaborate together on a project, since Reaper doesn't seem to want 
> to be compatible with ProTools session files. I am in the process of 
> composing an album, and someone who uses ProTools 11 kindly offered to 
> master it. However when I use Reaper to record the tracks, save the 
> stems, then load a project just using the stem files which are in wav 
> format, sometimes the timing of the stems is horribly off! So how can 
> any possible collaboration take place? I don't want to have to tell 
> the mastering guy, okay man, the piano should come in at measure 8, 
> that guitar track doesn't come in until measure 27, oh great, the 
> drums don't start until measure this and that. Way too much time and 
> confusion for that nonsense! Am I missing something?
>
> Original message:
>> I'm going to have to mess with system access a bit more, that's the
>> screen reader I haven't done enough with yet.
>
>
>
>> On 7/12/2014 3:51 PM, Kevin Brown wrote:
>>> Lots of great points!,...I am one of those guys who likes to spend the
>>> time tweeking, and bolting things together...
>>> So,...Reaper works fine for me,...then again, I am not as advanced as
>>> many of you on this forum...
>
>>> Another point for me is, I am totally hooked on system access, and I
>>> find that reaper works very well with system access...
>
>>> I like some of the points you made Cris,...I may look into getting a
>>> windows machine custom built,...but, I am still going to use
>>> reaper,...I just love this DAW...
>
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