[RWP] I need all of your input, please. Abandoning Reaper vs. ProTools, should I stay or go?

[Michael Taboada]

Hi,
As for rea access not being supported that's a good point. However, if a 
guy named Michael has anything to say about it, reaper will have a new 
accessible solution in the not-too-distant future. *hint hint*.
-Michael.



On 7/12/2014 6:20 AM, Indigo wrote:
> No argument required, ProTools is expected by most savvy clients, it's 
> the industry standard, but you may find folks who will let you record 
> in any software you want, how about just not telling them what you're 
> using, after all that's your department and not theirs, then  letting 
> them listen to your results?
> Online, my ears tell me that ProTools as not superior to Sonar 8.5.3 
> or to recordings done on Reaper 4.x versions, the public just doesn't 
> know anything about daws.
> Let others here inform you about access to ProTools, I never looked at 
> it, except for the free version for Windows, which seemed accessible, 
> but couldn't record anything, plus it's Pace antipiracy messed up the 
> computer I was using at that time.
> The free ProTools for Windows had nice sensible menus, and my 
> screenreader could see everything, don't know why it didn't respond to 
> either clicks from my enter key or mouse clicks at the numberPad.
> I'm sure the paid version of ProTools wouldn't act like that; or would 
> it?
> Indi
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> On 7/12/2014 6:29 AM, Jes wrote:
>> Hello list.
>>
>> This is a very, very long post, so sorry about that but you have been
>> warned.
>> A while back, as some of you may remember, we had a nice discussion
>> about the advantages of Reaper vs. ProTools and which one aparently was
>> better.
>> Well, it's decision time for me. I have learned Reaper somewhat well, at
>> least well enough to get things done. I have talked about this with my
>> wife, as we are trying to get a music business going, and aparently
>> people liked what I contributed to the list as far as an audio sample of
>> my work. I really appreciate all of your feedback on that, by the way!
>> Well, long story short, I am beginning to do work for other people and
>> contributing music to a full-time radio outlet here in my area. IT's
>> purely a volunteer effort right now, something I look forward to doing.
>> Plus, I will probably start receiving payments for my work, and this
>> demands that I have a stable system that I can immediately have working
>> at a moment's notice. Just in the last five minutes, I have come up with
>> six reasons why ProTools, in the long run, might be a better option for
>> me for productivity sake. I'm not trying to start any flames, I just
>> need your help to make an informed decision.
>> So here are my six reasons, with an explanation for each. Are all of
>> these reasons bologna?
>> 1. ProTools is accessible right out of the box, Reaper is not.
>> Avid has done a heck of a lot of work to make ProTools accessible with
>> Voiceover right out of the box. From the minute you get things setup,
>> bam, you're ready to rock. Yes, Reaper is accessible on the Mac, but
>> there is a lot of footwork to do, even to get just the basic stuff
>> going, and this is something I really don't have the time to undertake,
>> no matter how easy it appears.
>> 2. ProTools is the industry standard, Reaper has a long way to catch up,
>> if it ever does. To be honest, ProTools is out there, people use it, and
>> there is a lot of support for it by a company who is in business for the
>> professional audiophile. The result is you will get a great deal of
>> support for your product, and the product will continue to evolve. After
>> all, Avid has built up a rock solid customer base and they have a
>> responsibility to be loyal to their following. If they aren't, it will
>> be a huge loss of money and customers. On the other hand, from what I
>> have gathered from some of the posts on this list, Reaper is basically a
>> side-project, with very little interest in the money. According to a
>> contributor, the only support Reaper gets is through message boards and
>> mailing lists. Plus, the developers don't enforce their customers to
>> adhere to their thirty-day trial. I have been using Reaper for over
>> three and a half years and have never gotten flagged for it. Thus,
>> Reaper could become abandonware at any time.
>> 3.  Reaaccess, like it or not, will one day be rendered useless.
>> It's fine for some of us to say we don't care, and we will be able to
>> use Reaper 3 dot so and so, or 4 dot so and so. But one day, Reaaccess
>> will no longer be an option, and if the Reaper devs don't do something,
>> I will not be able to be a productive musician if I rely solely on
>> Reaper. Time and technology marches on, and with it, the need to keep
>> up-to-date with the latest versions of the products you use. If you lag
>> behind, it will eventually come back to haunt you. Let me put in a
>> disclaimer right here. I know some of you will say that it's your choice
>> to use an older version or move to a new one. With ProTools, I would
>> agree with that, seeing as how the product is accessible right out of
>> the box. With Reaper, however, if Reaper 3 and 4 are accessible to us,
>> but later versions are not compatible with a screen reader, there is no
>> choice. IT is a necessity that you remain where you are for
>> accessibility's sake.
>> 4. I have no easy, accessible way to backup my internal hard drive on my
>> Windows machine.
>> I have put in a lot of work getting this PC optamized for audio work,
>> from installing drivers to my USB audio interface, to installing sound
>> forge, to installing Reaper and konplete 9. Native Instruments product
>> was a bear to get going, and I had to spend two hours on the phone with
>> a merciful sighted person just to get the thing registered. When my hard
>> drive goes bye-bye, I will have no choice but go through that painfully
>> grooling task again, and I cannot afford to spend my days trying to get
>> this setup installed again. To my knowledge, on the windows side there
>> is no means of taking an image of my C drive and being able to restore
>> that image onto a new drive where the process is able to be done totally
>> with speech. I would have to have sighted assistance at some point along
>> the way. I'm not talking about unattended installations, I want to be
>> involved in every step of the backup and installation process of my
>> image. On the Mac, there are plenty of ways to do this, and I have used
>> them with great success.
>> 5. I already have a Mac and am familiar with VoiceOver, and it is easy
>> to collaborate with sighted professionals on an audio project.
>> 6. Windows is not made for audio work. There is a slight delay in when
>> you hit a key and when you get output from your instrument, even with
>> Asio. The Mac is made for audio stuff, and the core audio shows it. Even
>> if that is not Apple's primary focus, the Mac is just much more stable
>> and much more responsive and allows one to get audio stuff done a lot
>> quicker.
>> So, am I just talking out both sides of my mouth, or do I have some
>> valid points? Any opinions will be appreciated.
>>
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