[RWP] I need all of your input, please. Abandoning Reaper vs. ProTools, should I stay or go?

Indigo 33indigo at charter.net
Sat Jul 12 07:20:26 EDT 2014


No argument required, ProTools is expected by most savvy clients, it's 
the industry standard, but you may find folks who will let you record in 
any software you want, how about just not telling them what you're 
using, after all that's your department and not theirs, then  letting 
them listen to your results?
Online, my ears tell me that ProTools as not superior to Sonar 8.5.3 or 
to recordings done on Reaper 4.x versions, the public just doesn't know 
anything about daws.
Let others here inform you about access to ProTools, I never looked at 
it, except for the free version for Windows, which seemed accessible, 
but couldn't record anything, plus it's Pace antipiracy messed up the 
computer I was using at that time.
The free ProTools for Windows had nice sensible menus, and my 
screenreader could see everything, don't know why it didn't respond to 
either clicks from my enter key or mouse clicks at the numberPad.
I'm sure the paid version of ProTools wouldn't act like that; or would it?
Indi





On 7/12/2014 6:29 AM, Jes wrote:
> Hello list.
>
> This is a very, very long post, so sorry about that but you have been
> warned.
> A while back, as some of you may remember, we had a nice discussion
> about the advantages of Reaper vs. ProTools and which one aparently was
> better.
> Well, it's decision time for me. I have learned Reaper somewhat well, at
> least well enough to get things done. I have talked about this with my
> wife, as we are trying to get a music business going, and aparently
> people liked what I contributed to the list as far as an audio sample of
> my work. I really appreciate all of your feedback on that, by the way!
> Well, long story short, I am beginning to do work for other people and
> contributing music to a full-time radio outlet here in my area. IT's
> purely a volunteer effort right now, something I look forward to doing.
> Plus, I will probably start receiving payments for my work, and this
> demands that I have a stable system that I can immediately have working
> at a moment's notice. Just in the last five minutes, I have come up with
> six reasons why ProTools, in the long run, might be a better option for
> me for productivity sake. I'm not trying to start any flames, I just
> need your help to make an informed decision.
> So here are my six reasons, with an explanation for each. Are all of
> these reasons bologna?
> 1. ProTools is accessible right out of the box, Reaper is not.
> Avid has done a heck of a lot of work to make ProTools accessible with
> Voiceover right out of the box. From the minute you get things setup,
> bam, you're ready to rock. Yes, Reaper is accessible on the Mac, but
> there is a lot of footwork to do, even to get just the basic stuff
> going, and this is something I really don't have the time to undertake,
> no matter how easy it appears.
> 2. ProTools is the industry standard, Reaper has a long way to catch up,
> if it ever does. To be honest, ProTools is out there, people use it, and
> there is a lot of support for it by a company who is in business for the
> professional audiophile. The result is you will get a great deal of
> support for your product, and the product will continue to evolve. After
> all, Avid has built up a rock solid customer base and they have a
> responsibility to be loyal to their following. If they aren't, it will
> be a huge loss of money and customers. On the other hand, from what I
> have gathered from some of the posts on this list, Reaper is basically a
> side-project, with very little interest in the money. According to a
> contributor, the only support Reaper gets is through message boards and
> mailing lists. Plus, the developers don't enforce their customers to
> adhere to their thirty-day trial. I have been using Reaper for over
> three and a half years and have never gotten flagged for it. Thus,
> Reaper could become abandonware at any time.
> 3.  Reaaccess, like it or not, will one day be rendered useless.
> It's fine for some of us to say we don't care, and we will be able to
> use Reaper 3 dot so and so, or 4 dot so and so. But one day, Reaaccess
> will no longer be an option, and if the Reaper devs don't do something,
> I will not be able to be a productive musician if I rely solely on
> Reaper. Time and technology marches on, and with it, the need to keep
> up-to-date with the latest versions of the products you use. If you lag
> behind, it will eventually come back to haunt you. Let me put in a
> disclaimer right here. I know some of you will say that it's your choice
> to use an older version or move to a new one. With ProTools, I would
> agree with that, seeing as how the product is accessible right out of
> the box. With Reaper, however, if Reaper 3 and 4 are accessible to us,
> but later versions are not compatible with a screen reader, there is no
> choice. IT is a necessity that you remain where you are for
> accessibility's sake.
> 4. I have no easy, accessible way to backup my internal hard drive on my
> Windows machine.
> I have put in a lot of work getting this PC optamized for audio work,
> from installing drivers to my USB audio interface, to installing sound
> forge, to installing Reaper and konplete 9. Native Instruments product
> was a bear to get going, and I had to spend two hours on the phone with
> a merciful sighted person just to get the thing registered. When my hard
> drive goes bye-bye, I will have no choice but go through that painfully
> grooling task again, and I cannot afford to spend my days trying to get
> this setup installed again. To my knowledge, on the windows side there
> is no means of taking an image of my C drive and being able to restore
> that image onto a new drive where the process is able to be done totally
> with speech. I would have to have sighted assistance at some point along
> the way. I'm not talking about unattended installations, I want to be
> involved in every step of the backup and installation process of my
> image. On the Mac, there are plenty of ways to do this, and I have used
> them with great success.
> 5. I already have a Mac and am familiar with VoiceOver, and it is easy
> to collaborate with sighted professionals on an audio project.
> 6. Windows is not made for audio work. There is a slight delay in when
> you hit a key and when you get output from your instrument, even with
> Asio. The Mac is made for audio stuff, and the core audio shows it. Even
> if that is not Apple's primary focus, the Mac is just much more stable
> and much more responsive and allows one to get audio stuff done a lot
> quicker.
> So, am I just talking out both sides of my mouth, or do I have some
> valid points? Any opinions will be appreciated.
>
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