[RWP] Applications key no longer triggers context menu

Drew amockery at gmail.com
Thu Jan 9 12:58:57 EST 2014


If it is a window class issue that's likely not where it is. I think that T 
is on the right track, but whatever the issue is not screenreader dependent 
because NVDA also fails in the same way on Reaper 4. I assume there's some 
way to check the class in NVDA as well as JAWS but don't know what it is, 
otherwise I'd help out more.
----- Original Message ----- 
From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 8:16 AM
Subject: Re: [RWP] Applications key no longer triggers context menu


> You could completely reinstall Reaper, either by deleting the .ini file or 
> by finding the heading in start menu where you return to factory settings.
> You'll get rid of any accidental setting that's causing problems, but 
> you'll also lose any convenient settings you've made, plus you'll need to 
> enable soundcard and any other gear you have going, and lose the path to 
> your stored plugIns.
> I was forced to do it once or twice early on with reaper.
> It has the positive factor of renewing your acquaintance with all your 
> settings, an optimistic view of the huge hassle. smile.
> Indi.
>
> On 1/9/2014 11:04 AM, T.Reid wrote:
>> Thank you Scott and Indy.
>>
>> I'm wondering does anyone know what would cause a change in the window
>> handle? Apparently that is part of the problem and I confirmed with CTRL
>> Insert F2, the Jaws command for finding the window handle, that it indeed
>> says it is invalid.
>>
>> Can someone else running 3.76 or 3.78 who is able to access the 
>> applications
>> context menu and also running Jaws determine using the above keystroke, 
>> if
>> there is a non invalid reference for their window handle?
>>
>> I am assuming Reaaccess is expecting a specific handle reference. I 
>> somehow
>> must have changed some setting that is causing the change in the handle.
>>
>> I know I can access the options in the menus in a different  way, but it
>> just seems like I should also be able to get it back.
>>
>> Any help is appreciated.
>>
>> t
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth
>> Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 9:16 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Applications key no longer triggers context menu
>>
>> That's four posts in a row basically saying the same thing Chris. I get 
>> that
>> there's wounded pride involved and the situation sucks, point made man.
>>
>> Let's get back on topic and try to figure out what's happened to T's 
>> context
>> menus, shall we?
>>
>> On 1/9/14, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>> Indigo, being polite is a two way street.
>>>
>>> Talking to someone you used to call friend who used to try and still
>>> does try and help you, instead of hiding behind email filters would be
>>> a good politeness move on your part.
>>>
>>> People try and help you and tell you things, but you ignore good
>>> advice and keep on asking the same things over and over again.
>>>
>>> It gets tiresome.
>>>
>>> YOu recently blocked one of the nicest kids who's super talented on
>>> midimag, that dj darkness fellow who did such nice work
>>>    you feel like you can bitch and whine and complain but if someone
>>> says one thing you don't like you don't have anything to do with them
>> anymore.
>>>
>>>    That is the height of rudeness on a public forum.
>>>
>>>    So practice what you preach buddy.
>>>
>>>    Don't be so shallow.
>>>
>>>    If your going to hang on a public forum, talk to everybody,
>>>    and don't act like your the center of the world and you can do
>>> people any old way.
>>>
>>>
>>>    ----- Original Message -----
>>>    From: Indigo
>>>    To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>    Sent: Thursday, January 09, 2014 3:08 AM
>>>    Subject: Re: [RWP] Applications key no longer triggers context menu
>>>
>>>
>>>    Let's be polite with each other, okay?
>>>    I add and remove sends and receives from the IO dialog, brought up 
>>> with
>>>    the letter I, so never missed those menus.
>>>    If you are on a selected track, its send and receives will show up in
>>>    the IO dialog.
>>>
>>>
>>>    On 1/8/2014 7:23 PM, Drew wrote:
>>>    > That's how you add and remove sends. I believe we've told you this
>>> about
>>>    > a million times (rounded down.) It's rather annoying as it's just
>> about
>>>    > the only thing that broke between Reaper 3 and Reaper 4, that I can
>>>    > tell. You can work around it by using the routing matrix of course 
>>> (I)
>>>    > but it's usually a more efficient workflow to be able to check and
>>>    > uncheck them in the menu, rather than the somewhat cumbersome task 
>>> of
>>>    > tabbing around the dialog to remove them and remembering the 
>>> 1-second
>>>    > rule when adding them.
>>>    > ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>    > To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>    > Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 2:34 PM
>>>    > Subject: Re: [RWP] Applications key no longer triggers context menu
>>>    >
>>>    >
>>>    >> Please tell me what the other menus with shift/control are for, 
>>> and
>>>    >> what screen they begin with?
>>>    >> Like the recording options menu displays Monitor Input when you 
>>> arrow
>>>    >> down once.
>>>    >> I sometimes get other menus from the applications key, like one 
>>> that
>>>    >> says J Jump to marker something.
>>>    >>
>>>    >> I know for sure there's a setting that could be a permanent fix,
>>>    >> because once I spent hours and accidentally ran across it, but 
>>> later
>>>    >> couldn't discover what setting did it.
>>>    >> I'd also like to know why sometimes I get the standard file, edit,
>>>    >> view, etcetera menus when I press alt, and sometimes not.
>>>    >> With that too, usually when I bring up those menus with a press of
>>>    >> F10, then alt continues to bring them up during that session, 
>>> though
>>>    >> not 100 percent consistently.
>>>    >> Those are just slightly annoying bugs, and not show stoppers for 
>>> me,
>>>    >> as long as we can discover workArounds.
>>>    >> David Shortland's discovery of a second midi editor that's much 
>>> more
>>>    >> complete than the original midi editor; when something broke the
>>>    >> original editor's ReaAccess shortcut; turned out to be a blessing 
>>> in
>>>    >> disguise.
>>>    >> Thanks,
>>>    >> Indi
>>>    >>
>>>    >> On 1/8/2014 4:54 PM, T.Reid wrote:
>>>    >>> Thanks Indy. I tried this workaround, but it only seems to
>>> present the
>>>    >>> context menu available from the applications key alone. Meaning 
>>> the
>>>    >>> different menus with shift, control... are no longer available. 
>>> Do
>>>    >>> you get
>>>    >>> these in 4.x?
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> I wonder if figuring out what went wrong or changed could be
>>> helpful in
>>>    >>> getting the applications key back in 4.xxx? When I do a Ctrl 
>>> Insert
>>>    >>> F2 in
>>>    >>> Jaws it confirms that the child window handle is invalid along 
>>> with
>>>    >>> others.
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> t
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> -----Original Message-----
>>>    >>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Indigo
>>>    >>> Sent: Wednesday, January 08, 2014 4:41 PM
>>>    >>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>    >>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Applications key no longer triggers context 
>>> menu
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> Looks like your 3.7 version has whatever causes the Handle not 
>>> found
>>>    >>> issue
>>>    >>> in Reaper 4x.
>>>    >>> I fooled around with various settings in Reaper and got the
>> recording
>>>    >>> options context menu to display, and then not to display, in
>>> Reaper 4x
>>>    >>> versions.
>>>    >>> You can always try the fix used by 4x users, hold ctrl then up
>>> arrow a
>>>    >>> couple of times.
>>>    >>> Then the problem is gone, so that a press of the applications key
>>>    >>> displays
>>>    >>> the menu for that session.
>>>    >>> It's not a permanent fix in versions 4x, you need to do ctrl+up
>> arrow
>>>    >>> again
>>>    >>> next session.
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>>
>>>    >>> On 1/8/2014 12:41 PM, T.Reid wrote:
>>>    >>>> Hello All:
>>>    >>>>
>>>    >>>> I'm hoping someone can help. I am running Reaper 3.76 with
>> Reaaccess
>>>    >>>> and have been for quite some time now.
>>>    >>>>
>>>    >>>> I am not aware of any changes that I made, but when in the
>>> Track View
>>>    >>>> and positioned on a track when I press the Applications key
>>> instead of
>>>    >>>> getting the context menu, Jaws announces "Handle of current 
>>> track
>>>    >>>> who is
>>>    >>> not found"
>>>    >>>>
>>>    >>>> I have no clue what that means, but it seems like it may be
>>> some sort
>>>    >>>> of configuration issue because I reinstalled Reaaccess and still
>> get
>>>    >>>> the message. As far as I know I haven't changed anything on this
>>>    >>>> machine. It was working fine  on Monday when in Reaper.
>>>    >>>>
>>>    >>>> Any suggestions are welcomed!
>>>    >>>>
>>>    >>>> Thanks,
>>>    >>>> t
>>>    >>>>
>>>    >>>>
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