[RWP] Discovery

Fri Feb 7 15:15:47 EST 2014

Can't help with AU instruments yet, don't have a Mac yet.

On 2/7/2014 2:33 PM, kyle wrote:
> Hi,
> I'd use logic, but the version i have isn't accessible. I have 10, if
> anyone's wondering. Like, when i leave the library of instruments, i
> can't get back for love nore money.
> Now, pro tools, there's something i'd buy. Alass, i have no money, so...
> This reaper sws thing, i didn't know about. I'll give that a shot. Also,
> i need more AU instrument plugins for reaper.
> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Sent: Friday, February 07, 2014 4:16 PM
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Discovery
>
>
> Thanks, Oreo Monster ,  for the update on Macs.
> I don't have that much problem thinking in a different mode.
> Maybe it's because I never really felt at home on this weird planet
> among this incredible species of advanced apes, so it's all equally odd,
> whatever I'm doing.
>
> Sure, just like everybody else, at first I reach for familiar shortcuts
> that don't work in the new  program, but I soon adopt a different brain
> map and am totally comfortable in any new scheme.
>
> I was a Window-Eyes user from dos days, and now NVDA is my only
> screenreader.
> I would have learned Jaws, but fell asleep installing it and waiting for
> it to load up. smile.
> I'll give my Jaws 12 64 it a second chance in this Intel I7 on Win7 64,
> maybe it'll load faster.
> NVDA ruined me with its almost instant loading.
> Through the years I've often been impressed with the clarity and sweet
> tone of tracks made on the Mac with Logic.
> Don't intend to get into a discussion whether different daws make
> different sounds, that's just what my ears hear.
> I'm under no illusions that Macs are perfect, my sister-in-law's Macs
> have spent plenty of time in the repair shop, or that Logic is heaven
> for even sighted users to run; I listened to a TC Helicon video of one
> of their tecks applying a tiny bit of effects onto a 1 measure track
> from a TC Helicon vocal pedal, and Logic had to reboot ten times during
> that tiny bit of processing, and the video was at least an hour long.
> I could have applied those effects in Reaper on Windows in five minutes,
> but, the tech  easily got the TC Helicon pedal into Logic as an
> aggrogate device, and I can't get the same pedal's USB output into
> Reaper on Windows at all, because it competes for the soundcard's asio
> driver.
>
> That Windows defect is unthinkable; that after all these years only 1
> device can run on 1 asio driver.
> My eMu card's asio driver has 32 midi channels out,  and I never even
> need 16 of those, I just don't see why Steinberg couldn't find a method
> of forceing an asio driver to share inputs, or somehow tagging an asio
> driver so you could have a hundred asio drivers installed, and each
> device would find only its own dedicated asio driver.
> We Windows users must be M/S fans to put up with that kind of
> mistreatment all these years.
> Thanks,
> Indi
> On 2/6/2014 7:05 PM, The Oreo Monster wrote:
>> Powerbooks got phased out around 5 years ago or so. Macbook pros are
>> the way to goo. 2009  MBP will probably be in the neighborhood of $500
>> give or take on ebay and will probably run better than your windows
>> machine with a clean install of the OS. BTW speaking from personal
>> experience here as there is one in the house running mavericks with
>> reaper and PT on it. Personally i find more of the dialogs on the mac
>> version are easier to work with. the screen reader sees and access
>> everything. You don’t have the issue where things aren’t in the tab
>> order and you have to use review keys or in the case of the actions
>> list, you can actually interact with it and read through every item on
>> the list. As someone else point out earlier the main interface isn’t
>> in groups which makes it tedious as hell to navigate, but thats where
>> the SWS Extensions and ReaConsole comes in. No running around the
>> interface trying to find stuff. Just press the letter C type in the
>> command to sa select a track, chang
> e the volume, pan, phase or arm t any number of tracks at  once, press
> enter to execute and you are on to the next task.   Thirdly stock reaper
> has a lack of keyboard short cuts assigned but i spent a lot of time
> fixing that and building custom actions.as well. Also  SWS brings with
> it some actions not included in reaper, like adjusting item volume and
> pan. so instead of opening item properties to do this i just select the
> item then use the hot keys i assigned to adjusting item volume or pan
> and move on, skipping the step o f opening the item properties dialog.
>>
>> All this being said, switching to the mac is no easy feat at first,
>> its a brand new OS and file structure and a  brand new screen reader
>> scheme to learn as well. This basically includes forgetting most of
>> what you learn about windows and  learning how things tie together in
>> new world. There is a reason why a lot of people buy macs but never
>> stop using their windows machine. Nothing wrong with that, if you
>> gotta get work done you gotta get work done. While personally your
>> issues with your  audio card made relish in the glory that is core
>> audio, Don’t think you can just buy a mac and be using reaper tomorrow
>> without spending at least two weeks  with your mac as your only
>> computer getting recomfortable with everything you can do on a pc.
>> Btw if you are actively using reaper on the mac already. Get in touch
>> with me, i could use  some assistance  testing something.
>>
>> On Feb 6, 2014, at 3:46 PM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> Thanks, Kyle
>>> I am thinking about a Mac.
>>> How old a Power Book can I get and still be able to run anything
>>> current?
>>> I'm trying to ascertain how much or how little I need to invest to
>>> try a Mac.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Indi
>>>
>>> On 2/6/2014 1:56 PM, kyle wrote:
>>>> Hi,
>>>> I use reaper on the mac. Its reasonably accessible when you get past
>>>> the
>>>> controls not being in groups. My only problem with it is that i have ot
>>>> constantly jump around the window, but other than that, reaper for mac
>>>> is fine.
>>>> ----- Original Message ----- From: "Scott Chesworth"
>>>> <scottchesworth at gmail.com>
>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>> Sent: Thursday, February 06, 2014 4:23 PM
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Discovery
>>>>
>>>>
>>>>> As of this moment I've spent less than half an hour in total poking
>>>>> about in the Mac version, so I'm definitely not the best person to
>>>>> answer that question. However accessible it may or may not turn out to
>>>>> be though, I'd say that for general usage or anything where I care
>>>>> about productivity, I'm using VoiceOver a lot less nowadays. Tbh, if
>>>>> I'm booted into Mac OS at all, at this point it's because I'm using
>>>>> Pro Tools for something, and once that thing is done, I'm outta there.
>>>>> All subjective of course, and you can bet your boots there are people
>>>>> here who'd disagree vigorously.
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2/6/14, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>> Scott, are there any functions you don't get with the Mac version of
>>>>>> Reaper?
>>>>>> Also, are there advantages?
>>>>>> After configuring this USB soundcard for speech, and learning how
>>>>>> Win7
>>>>>> 64's audio configuration menus are messily scattered all over the
>>>>>> computer, I'm getting more receptive to the talk that Windows is
>>>>>> no way
>>>>>> to build a computer, and considering venturing into a Mac.
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> Indi
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2/6/2014 7:55 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>>>>>>> I wonder whether holding down CMD instead of CTRL would work in the
>>>>>>> same places in the Mac version. Fairly sure that this isn't a
>>>>>>> ReaAccess specific function.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 2/6/14, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>>>>> Thanks, David, those are definitely quicker ways to change
>>>>>>>> volume and
>>>>>>>> pan, which are maddenly slow with some of the other methods.
>>>>>>>> Indi.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On 2/5/2014 6:19 PM, David P Shortland wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Hi & Greetings from Down Under,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Perhaps some of you, or mayhap all of you know this, but
>>>>>>>>> something I
>>>>>>>>> discovered while working in the Item Properties Dialog.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We all know that when an Item is Selected you can call up its
>>>>>>>>> Properties
>>>>>>>>> Dialog by using Shift plus F2.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The two parameters, Volume & Pan, when they have the Focus, can be
>>>>>>>>> altered by using the Up & Down Arrows.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The Volume parameter will Increment or Decrement by around
>>>>>>>>> point7 5db
>>>>>>>>> The Pan parameter will Increment (Left) or Decrement (Right) by
>>>>>>>>> 3 per
>>>>>>>>> cent.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> However, when the Control key is also used with the Up and Down
>>>>>>>>> Arrow
>>>>>>>>> keys, the Increment and Decrement amounts become much much smaller
>>>>>>>>> for
>>>>>>>>> each parameter.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Hope this was of some benefit to someone, it sure was for me...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> David P Shortland
>>>>>>>>> DragonScore Productions
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
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