[RWP] Is Izotope an accessible VST?

Tue Dec 16 18:43:18 EST 2014

Nope, Iris isn't even slightly accessible out of the box. Same goes
for Stutter Edit, although there is an HSC set for that one at least.

On 12/16/14, Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at me.com> wrote:
> I don't think I've tried ozone yet.  I tried iris and couldn't get it to
> bring anything in but I may check out the other one.
>
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 5:35 PM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Is Izotope an accessible VST?
>
> Is Nectar Elements some sort of stripped down version? If so, I haven't
> tried that one. Anybody else?
>
> Ozone is an overwhelming beast (literally hundreds of parameters that can
> be
> modified), but the presets are mostly good starting points that can do some
> of the heavy lifting for you.
>
> Last I checked, iZotope had demos of all their stuff. Maybe grab those and
> see how you get on?
>
> On 12/16/14, Crystal Dennis <valkyriecelesyt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> The Izotope plugs I am most interested in are ozone and Nectar
>> Elements (the 30 dollar one since it's all I can afford at the moment)
>> Moreso Nectar Elements, so I am most interested on how that one would
>> work with Rea access and or Sonar....debating installing Sonar and
>> giving it another go, lol
>>
>> Crystal
>>
>> On 12/16/14, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Hey Scott,
>>>
>>> Ah, this is where it gets a bit confusing. When I talk about
>>> parameters being exposed to automation in this context, I'm talking
>>> about the method ReaAccess uses to get some control over plugins when
>>> their native user interface that's in the fx window isn't accessible
>>> to screen reader software. IN a nutshell, ReaAccess intercepts the
>>> parameters that are primarily intended for control surfaces. It's
>>> kinda a hacky method, but it works. What you're talking about,
>>> automating plugs, isn't any more possible in Reaper than in Sonar so
>>> far as I know. Better automation support was on the list of features
>>> that'd been improved in ReaAccess 2.0, but as you probably know, the
>>> developer vanished in a puff of smoke without releasing that
>>> version... doh!
>>>
>>> I haven't used Reverberate, but just going on past experience it's
>>> fairly unlikely that the button you'd need to load impulses will be
>>> exposed as a parameter that shows up in the Shift+P list. Same with a
>>> lot of synths and their load buttons unfortunately. I've asked many a
>>> developer to rectify this, but only seen occasional results. One
>>> common problem is that even if the button could be triggered by
>>> automation, you wouldn't be in the right window to read the menu that
>>> it'd load. This is, of course, assuming that it's a native Windows
>>> menu and not some other funky custom colection of controls that're
>>> designed to behave the same cross platform, which more often than not
>>> aren't accessible.
>>>
>>> Might be worth pointing out that ReaVerb (the stock Reaper reverb
>>> plugin) can be used to load impulses easily enough, but from what you
>>> were saying it sounds like Reverberate properly does cool stuff to
>>> them afterward that ReaVerb won't. Even so, it's good to know that
>>> the stock pplugin will do the job if you've got a decent impulse
>>> collection. I was impressed enough with Valhalla to pick those up,
>>> and haven't felt the need to rock the reverb boat since then. Tbh
>>> though, I'm not an advanced verb user, I only bring it out for subtle
>>> textures and glue now and then.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 12/16/14, Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at me.com> wrote:
>>>> Hi Scott.
>>>>
>>>> I didn't know you could do automation with plugs.  I remember
>>>> reading a while back that with sonar for instance, automation lanes
>>>> were inaccesible.
>>>>
>>>> Does reaper use a different type of automation process?
>>>>
>>>> I have a plugin by liquid sonics called reverberate, not sure if
>>>> you've heard of it but you're apparently able to use impulse files
>>>> to create really complex reverbs that are great for ambient and
>>>> drone music.
>>>>
>>>> With reaper, when I pull this plugin up, I get around 42 presets and
>>>> can't figure out how to import impulse files.  Perhaps that a task
>>>> that automation could expose parameters to, I don't know.
>>>>
>>>> I used eventides blackhole for a 14 day trial but thought $199 was a
>>>> bit much for a reverb, especially when the valhalla stuff is also
>>>> pretty good at
>>>> $50 a plugin.
>>>>
>>>> Besides, I hated the iLok system, probably more than ITunes and
>>>> that's saying a lot.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>> -----Original Message-----
>>>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Scott
>>>> Chesworth
>>>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:59 AM
>>>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>>>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Is Izotope an accessible VST?
>>>>
>>>> It's a mixed bag, hard to give a definitive answer without knowing
>>>> which titles and tasks you're interested in. I've got Ozone 5,
>>>> Alloy, Nectar and RX 2 here, which all get a fair amount of use.
>>>> Ozone and RX aren't the latest versions, I just haven't seen enough
>>>> movement on the accessibility front to justify upgrading. For the
>>>> ones that are accessible, I'd classify them as kind of usable rather
>>>> than 100% accessible, reason being that they do still seem to need a
>>>> bit of trickery here and there and all of them seem to have their
>>>> quirks.
>>>> Lots of parameters are exposed to automation though, so if you like
>>>> that method of using plugs then you're in good hands.
>>>>
>>>> Let us know more specifics, might be able to narrow down what works
>>>> and what doesn't for you.
>>>>
>>>> Scott
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 12/16/14, Crystal Dennis <valkyriecelesyt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>>> Pretty much what the title says:  Does anyone have experience with
>>>>> the Izotope line of VSTs, and are they accessible with NVDA or
>>>>> JAWS?  I tried to use Izotopes Nectar Elements VST and couldn't get
>>>>> the presets to work, but I was trying in audacity so I'm not sure
>>>>> if that's just an audacity thing or if it's overall just
>>>>> inaccessible with a screenreader (I've switched over to NVDA since
>>>>> getting a new computer) in general though, are Izotope's plugs
>>>>> workable
> with a screenreader?
>>>>> Ozone and any other VST in their line -  a friend showed them to me
>>>>> and I love them, but don't want to invest in them unless I know for
>>>>> sure that they work.
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> Crystal
>>>>>
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