[RWP] Is Izotope an accessible VST?

Tue Dec 16 16:43:21 EST 2014

The Izotope plugs I am most interested in are ozone and Nectar
Elements (the 30 dollar one since it's all I can afford at the moment)
Moreso Nectar Elements, so I am most interested on how that one would
work with Rea access and or Sonar....debating installing Sonar and
giving it another go, lol

Crystal

On 12/16/14, Scott Chesworth <scottchesworth at gmail.com> wrote:
> Hey Scott,
>
> Ah, this is where it gets a bit confusing. When I talk about
> parameters being exposed to automation in this context, I'm talking
> about the method ReaAccess uses to get some control over plugins when
> their native user interface that's in the fx window isn't accessible
> to screen reader software. IN a nutshell, ReaAccess intercepts the
> parameters that are primarily intended for control surfaces. It's
> kinda a hacky method, but it works. What you're talking about,
> automating plugs, isn't any more possible in Reaper than in Sonar so
> far as I know. Better automation support was on the list of features
> that'd been improved in ReaAccess 2.0, but as you probably know, the
> developer vanished in a puff of smoke without releasing that
> version... doh!
>
> I haven't used Reverberate, but just going on past experience it's
> fairly unlikely that the button you'd need to load impulses will be
> exposed as a parameter that shows up in the Shift+P list. Same with a
> lot of synths and their load buttons unfortunately. I've asked many a
> developer to rectify this, but only seen occasional results. One
> common problem is that even if the button could be triggered by
> automation, you wouldn't be in the right window to read the menu that
> it'd load. This is, of course, assuming that it's a native Windows
> menu and not some other funky custom colection of controls that're
> designed to behave the same cross platform, which more often than not
> aren't accessible.
>
> Might be worth pointing out that ReaVerb (the stock Reaper reverb
> plugin) can be used to load impulses easily enough, but from what you
> were saying it sounds like Reverberate properly does cool stuff to
> them afterward that ReaVerb won't. Even so, it's good to know that the
> stock pplugin will do the job if you've got a decent impulse
> collection. I was impressed enough with Valhalla to pick those up, and
> haven't felt the need to rock the reverb boat since then. Tbh though,
> I'm not an advanced verb user, I only bring it out for subtle textures
> and glue now and then.
>
>
>
> On 12/16/14, Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at me.com> wrote:
>> Hi Scott.
>>
>> I didn't know you could do automation with plugs.  I remember reading a
>> while back that with sonar for instance, automation lanes were
>> inaccesible.
>>
>> Does reaper use a different type of automation process?
>>
>> I have a plugin by liquid sonics called reverberate, not sure if you've
>> heard of it but you're apparently able to use impulse files to create
>> really
>> complex reverbs that are great for ambient and drone music.
>>
>> With reaper, when I pull this plugin up, I get around 42 presets and
>> can't
>> figure out how to import impulse files.  Perhaps that a task that
>> automation
>> could expose parameters to, I don't know.
>>
>> I used eventides blackhole for a 14 day trial but thought $199 was a bit
>> much for a reverb, especially when the valhalla stuff is also pretty good
>> at
>> $50 a plugin.
>>
>> Besides, I hated the iLok system, probably more than ITunes and that's
>> saying a lot.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> -----Original Message-----
>> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth
>> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:59 AM
>> To: Reapers Without Peepers
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Is Izotope an accessible VST?
>>
>> It's a mixed bag, hard to give a definitive answer without knowing which
>> titles and tasks you're interested in. I've got Ozone 5, Alloy, Nectar
>> and
>> RX 2 here, which all get a fair amount of use. Ozone and RX aren't the
>> latest versions, I just haven't seen enough movement on the accessibility
>> front to justify upgrading. For the ones that are accessible, I'd
>> classify
>> them as kind of usable rather than 100% accessible, reason being that
>> they
>> do still seem to need a bit of trickery here and there and all of them
>> seem
>> to have their quirks.
>> Lots of parameters are exposed to automation though, so if you like that
>> method of using plugs then you're in good hands.
>>
>> Let us know more specifics, might be able to narrow down what works and
>> what
>> doesn't for you.
>>
>> Scott
>>
>>
>> On 12/16/14, Crystal Dennis <valkyriecelesyt at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Pretty much what the title says:  Does anyone have experience with the
>>> Izotope line of VSTs, and are they accessible with NVDA or JAWS?  I
>>> tried to use Izotopes Nectar Elements VST and couldn't get the presets
>>> to work, but I was trying in audacity so I'm not sure if that's just
>>> an audacity thing or if it's overall just inaccessible with a
>>> screenreader (I've switched over to NVDA since getting a new computer)
>>> in general though, are Izotope's plugs workable with a screenreader?
>>> Ozone and any other VST in their line -  a friend showed them to me
>>> and I love them, but don't want to invest in them unless I know for
>>> sure that they work.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Crystal
>>>
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