[RWP] Is Izotope an accessible VST?

[Scott Chesworth]

Hey Scott,

Ah, this is where it gets a bit confusing. When I talk about
parameters being exposed to automation in this context, I'm talking
about the method ReaAccess uses to get some control over plugins when
their native user interface that's in the fx window isn't accessible
to screen reader software. IN a nutshell, ReaAccess intercepts the
parameters that are primarily intended for control surfaces. It's
kinda a hacky method, but it works. What you're talking about,
automating plugs, isn't any more possible in Reaper than in Sonar so
far as I know. Better automation support was on the list of features
that'd been improved in ReaAccess 2.0, but as you probably know, the
developer vanished in a puff of smoke without releasing that
version... doh!

I haven't used Reverberate, but just going on past experience it's
fairly unlikely that the button you'd need to load impulses will be
exposed as a parameter that shows up in the Shift+P list. Same with a
lot of synths and their load buttons unfortunately. I've asked many a
developer to rectify this, but only seen occasional results. One
common problem is that even if the button could be triggered by
automation, you wouldn't be in the right window to read the menu that
it'd load. This is, of course, assuming that it's a native Windows
menu and not some other funky custom colection of controls that're
designed to behave the same cross platform, which more often than not
aren't accessible.

Might be worth pointing out that ReaVerb (the stock Reaper reverb
plugin) can be used to load impulses easily enough, but from what you
were saying it sounds like Reverberate properly does cool stuff to
them afterward that ReaVerb won't. Even so, it's good to know that the
stock pplugin will do the job if you've got a decent impulse
collection. I was impressed enough with Valhalla to pick those up, and
haven't felt the need to rock the reverb boat since then. Tbh though,
I'm not an advanced verb user, I only bring it out for subtle textures
and glue now and then.



On 12/16/14, Scott Lawlor <sklawlor at me.com> wrote:
> Hi Scott.
>
> I didn't know you could do automation with plugs.  I remember reading a
> while back that with sonar for instance, automation lanes were inaccesible.
>
> Does reaper use a different type of automation process?
>
> I have a plugin by liquid sonics called reverberate, not sure if you've
> heard of it but you're apparently able to use impulse files to create
> really
> complex reverbs that are great for ambient and drone music.
>
> With reaper, when I pull this plugin up, I get around 42 presets and can't
> figure out how to import impulse files.  Perhaps that a task that
> automation
> could expose parameters to, I don't know.
>
> I used eventides blackhole for a 14 day trial but thought $199 was a bit
> much for a reverb, especially when the valhalla stuff is also pretty good
> at
> $50 a plugin.
>
> Besides, I hated the iLok system, probably more than ITunes and that's
> saying a lot.
>
> Scott
>
> -----Original Message-----
> From: RWP [mailto:rwp-bounces at reaaccess.com] On Behalf Of Scott Chesworth
> Sent: Tuesday, December 16, 2014 3:59 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Is Izotope an accessible VST?
>
> It's a mixed bag, hard to give a definitive answer without knowing which
> titles and tasks you're interested in. I've got Ozone 5, Alloy, Nectar and
> RX 2 here, which all get a fair amount of use. Ozone and RX aren't the
> latest versions, I just haven't seen enough movement on the accessibility
> front to justify upgrading. For the ones that are accessible, I'd classify
> them as kind of usable rather than 100% accessible, reason being that they
> do still seem to need a bit of trickery here and there and all of them seem
> to have their quirks.
> Lots of parameters are exposed to automation though, so if you like that
> method of using plugs then you're in good hands.
>
> Let us know more specifics, might be able to narrow down what works and
> what
> doesn't for you.
>
> Scott
>
>
> On 12/16/14, Crystal Dennis <valkyriecelesyt at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Pretty much what the title says:  Does anyone have experience with the
>> Izotope line of VSTs, and are they accessible with NVDA or JAWS?  I
>> tried to use Izotopes Nectar Elements VST and couldn't get the presets
>> to work, but I was trying in audacity so I'm not sure if that's just
>> an audacity thing or if it's overall just inaccessible with a
>> screenreader (I've switched over to NVDA since getting a new computer)
>> in general though, are Izotope's plugs workable with a screenreader?
>> Ozone and any other VST in their line -  a friend showed them to me
>> and I love them, but don't want to invest in them unless I know for
>> sure that they work.
>> Thanks,
>> Crystal
>>
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