[RWP] reaaccess problem - It will not get installed on reaper 32bit, in windows 64bit

[Chris Belle]

Chris did a great job,
but the problems with control surfaces that experienced engineers like 
Patrick
have outlined are real, and not trivial for us.

If it were that easy, then it wouldn't generate the traffic it does, 
once you get beyond just twiddling knobs for fun and daily 
experimentation that
some folks enjoy being good enough then you start hitting the issues.

Or if you want to use your surface for more than one simple set-up.


On 8/29/2014 11:25 AM, Indigo wrote:
> The Behringer BCF2000 is incredibly easy to configure to Reaper.
> Just read the info for configuring it to Sonar written by Chris Smart, 
> and set the mode to the same as for Sonar.
> Even without Tim's scripts, the BCF2000 controls 8 Reaper tracks, with 
> all the faders immediately jumping to whatever levels the tracks have, 
> then you can shift it to the next 8 tracks, etcetera, up to 32 tracks 
> controlled by the faders for level.
> Same for pan and the other knobs up top.
> In other words, you get a bunch of control by default.
> No, the controls for jogging down at the bottom right corner don't 
> work, they just jump to track beginning or end, the standard Reaper 
> audio jogging with left and right arrows works, the BCF's buttons 
> don't, at least by default they don't, but you already have Reaper's 
> jogging and the BCF2000 doesn't interfere with anything you get from 
> ReaAccess.
> There may be other BCF2000 buttons that don't do anything in Reaper by 
> default, but you get a bunch of control with nearly zero effort.
> If you want much more control, there are many control scripts on the 
> Reaper forums for the BCF2000.
> Load any of these and prepare to study their manuals, if they exist, 
> to learn how compulsive/obsessive thoseguys on the forums are at 
> controlling every last tiny area  of Reaper.
> Not me, I got other things to do in life besides chasing down the last 
> Nth degree of control in anything.
> The Edirol PCR-300 is also very easy, and has served me for must be 
> ten years at least.
> Roy Shtupler and I both have an Edirol PCR.
> That same control surface is now sold by Cakewalk, I believe, and has 
> pretty much the same panel layout.
> The king of all the controllers, for me, is Novation's AutoMap 
> controllers.
> I configured it in Reaper's preferences/control surface by myself with 
> NVDA, which was easy, but about 2 minutes of sighted help was required 
> to click on the bit map button to scan my hundreds of VST plugs, which 
> took AutoMap about ten seconds.
> I then had two copies of each plug, 1 the original plug and 2 the 
> AutoMapped version, with AutoMap in its name.
> Once scanned, all you need to do is insert the Automapped version and 
> immediately all its parameters are assigned to the particular Novation 
> control surface you are using, they all use the same AutoMap software.
> Camel Audio's Alchemy, for instance, has 27 pages of parameters 
> assigned to my little $99 box's 8 knobs and 8 buttons.
> There's a transparent window that you can pop up in Reaper, probably 
> also in sonar,  by pressing a dedicated button on the control surface, 
> and the window is totally accessible, reads the name of the plug, the 
> last parameter you touched on the control surface, its real world 
> values, like hertz, milliseconds, whatever, and you can edit them 
> right there in that transparent window.
> I call that easy.
> Man, I'm going on 80, still suffering from severe allergies and 
> migraines, always had an obviously leaky memory, and if I can run 
> these boxes anybody can!
>
>
>
> Indi
> On 8/29/2014 10:05 AM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>> I like the idea of control surfaces, but getting them set up so that 
>> you do eventually get to benefit from the convenience of having one 
>> even a basic one, can really be a jerk sometimes. Thinking 
>> specifically of the Korg Nanokontrol 2. Without being able to use 
>> it's editor, setting up as either a generic button and knob box for 
>> plugins, or a control surface for tracks is ok, but have fun doing 
>> both. It would almost be better to have two.
>>
>> Sent from my iPhone
>>
>>> On Aug 29, 2014, at 9:49, "Alex H." <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>>
>>> Definitely hear you about analog/turn a knob and it does stuff type
>>> workflow. Getting really sick and tired of inaccessible
>>> software/control panels, and no accessible way to do effective and
>>> time-friendly automations means I'm looking into a simple but decent
>>> contorl surface. Don't need more than 8 faders, for example.
>>> Alex
>>>
>>>> On 8/29/14, Chris Belle <cb1963 at sbcglobal.net> wrote:
>>>> Here's another thing.
>>>>
>>>> I think the focus rite interfaces are fine, but I don't believe 
>>>> there is
>>>> any access to the control pannel other than jaws hsc.
>>>>
>>>> You'll need to hire someone to fix you up a ahk script or something if
>>>> you want to fiddle about in the control pannel.
>>>>
>>>> Change headphone direct monitoring, anything like that.
>>>>
>>>> If you get one of the little baby units with only two outs, then those
>>>> are so simple they will probably have a mix knob for input and out-put
>>>> and that's it, but when you start getting to 4 or more ins and outs,
>>>> then here we go again.
>>>>
>>>> YOu wouldn't believe how many message come across the mag, how do I 
>>>> get
>>>> blah blah interface to get line one to go to line 3,
>>>> I need to pan this, this only comes out one side, it goes on and 
>>>> on, and
>>>> this is simple stuff that's so easily done on a mixer based interface.
>>>>
>>>> People might save a hundred bucks, but then be hung up
>>>> doing something simple.
>>>>
>>>> But it's all about your time and how much aggrevation you want to 
>>>> put up
>>>> with.
>>>>
>>>> For  me, i have 0 tolerance for such things, when I want to work and I
>>>> want signals to go where I need them, I want to turn and knob and have
>>>> it happen.
>>>> and even a small but flexible mixer can do wonders.
>>>>
>>>>
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