[RWP] reaaccess problem - It will not get installed on reaper 32bit, in windows 64bit
David P Shortland
dragamilov at comcen.com.au
Thu Aug 28 23:32:00 EDT 2014
Hi & Greetings from The Island Continent
Tis great that you have the inputs showing up in REAPER 32Bit.
Do your Inputs & Outputs function as they should? Since you have the Emu
1212 does this card not require the PatchMix?
When it comes to your next audio card, mayhap your first consideration is
obviously budget. Then how much more could you possibly push to get that
little extra?
Once you have established your ceiling start here and ask everyone what they
use, and then spend a lot of time researching with Google.
I say start here because us folks will tell you what we use, and how easy it
has or has not been for us to implement our audio cards into our workspaces
studios etc. Sometimes it can be very heartbreaking and downright
frustrating and time consuming.
Once you have heard from us, Google for audio cards and read the reviews...
read the reviews... and then read the reviews.
Corelate what you find with what we have said, and hopefully you should end
up with something that will at least in the first instance be able to give
you audio from just about plug in stage...:)
If anyone else has any ideas in this arena feel free to throw your thoughts
this way...
Kind regards
David P Shortland
DragonScore Productions
-----Original Message-----
From: Hadi Rezaee
Sent: Friday, August 29, 2014 1:12 AM
To: rwp at reaaccess.com
Subject: Re: [RWP] reaaccess problem - It will not get installed on reaper
32bit, in windows 64bit
Hi David
I installed reaper 32bit and now my inputs are listed correctly in
reaper, and they seem to be pre-configured or something.
I'm not really a pro-recorder, So i think i will use this emu-1212m
without any settings or anything, just default settings, untill i get
some money to grab a great audio interface.
I might create another topic for this, but I'm wondering what should i
buy if i want to junk this emu-1212m.
On 8/28/2014 1:39 AM, David P Shortland wrote:
> Hi & Greetings from Somewhere South of the Middle Bit...
>
> Yes Indy you are absolutely correct. All the routing needs to be addressed
> in the Patch Mix.
>
> The reason you cannot here from your Inputs 5 & 6 is because they are not
> configured in PatchMix.
>
> From what I recall of the Session I sent you, I only had Inputs 1 thru 4
> configured.
>
> Also, the Inputs 1 & 2 on the Front Panel are a multi plug Input. Not only
> does it handle both Phono 6.5mm and XLR for Mics, but it can also take a
> Neutrik/Speakon connector.
>
> I used to really love my 1820M, but when I bought a new 64bit machine with
> Windows 7, I really had no other option than to change sound cards and
> went for the Mackie Onyx 1220I.
>
> I have had no regrets in doing this, and the headaches are now virtually
> non existant.
>
> In this day and age where machines can now handle most things we can throw
> at them in audio, why make our lives more complicated by using
> hardware/software that is inaccessable. There are certainly now quite a
> few companies who produce good hi-end accessable user friendly hardware in
> the audio interface department.
>
> I believe there still might be a few people on the Emu forums who can help
> out by doing the Patch Mix for you, give it a shot.
>
> TTFN...
>
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Indigo
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:50 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] reaaccess problem - It will not get installed on reaper
> 32bit, in windows 64bit
>
> I got the clue to set my eMu 1616M's outputs as 15/16 from Sonar, which
> automatically recognized 15/16 as outputs when I installed Sonar 8.5.3.
> It let me hear anything playing or input into Sonar, so I've continued
> to use 15/16 as outputs.
> In Reaper, outputs 15/16 also works to hear anything played or fed into
> Reaper.
>
> Now, inputs are a different story, one I understand even less.
> I am supposed to get 2 microphone XLR jacks, 2 Hi-Z electric guitar
> jacks in the middle of the XLR microphone jacks.
> These are both controlled by the same level knobs on the eMu box, so
> those count only as 2 inputs, left and right.
> Then on the back of the box I have 4 line level quarter-inch jacks,
> which should show up as left and right 1 plus left and right 2, but I
> can only get left and right 1 to work.
> I configured Reaper to use input 1 as first and input 6 as last; hoping
> to include the 2 microphone jacks and both sets of line level inputs;
> but nothing I do seems to let me hear anything plugged into that second
> set of line level jacks.
> I know the problem must be in PatchMix, which I can't access.
>
> I tried using the session template marked all inputs and outputs, which
> made no difference.
> So, I seem to be limited to 2 microphones; or; 2 electric guitar jacks,
> plus 2 line-level input jacks.
> A friend sent me a session template file that allowed all the inputs on
> his eMu 1820 card to work, but it seems not to help to get that second
> set of line level jacks to work on my 1616M
> As beautiful as it sounds, to me; this eMu card is like an enigma hidden
> inside a mystery hidden inside a riddle.
> I believe even Steven Hawking or Bill Gates couldn't puzzle it out!
> Indi
>
>
>
> On 8/27/2014 11:35 AM, Hadi Rezaee wrote:
>> Hi Indi.
>> Now i have this problem.. I don't know what input range should i select
>> in REAPER settings.
>> I tried setting input as the first, and input 8 as the last, and output
>> 15 as the first, and output 16 as the last.
>> But i can't hear my guitar when i plug it in into the kard L or Kard R.
>> and when i apply effects.
>> Any ideas...?
>>
>> On 8/27/2014 6:53 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>> Hadi, I love the sound of my eMu 1616M, but I sure don't love it's
>>> problems, just use it anyway.
>>> In Reaper's preferences, I set input 1 as the first, and input 6 as the
>>> last.
>>> For outputs, I set 15 as the first and 16 as the last.
>>> this is the only way I get mine to work properly.
>>> Here are links to download the proper 64-bit driver, and link to the
>>> proper PatchMix driver.
>>> Of course, install the driver first, reboot, then install PatchMix.
>>> Below the links, I'll talk about how I set the default session file for
>>> PatchMix, which you probably already know
>>> Here are the links, hope they are active:
>>>
>>> Use the 2.30 beta driver (EmuPMX_PCDrv_US_2_30_00_BETA.exe)
>>> http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=11913
>>> 2.20 app/PatchMix (EmuPMX_PCApp_US_2_20_00.exe)!
>>> http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=12479
>>> Hadi, to choose a session template, I go to C:\Program Files\Creative
>>> Professional\
>>> and arrow to the program itself, open that and go to session templates,
>>> and arrow through all those session templates until I find the factory
>>> default one for the one that is for my card and the bit rate I'm
>>> recording at.
>>> I press enter on it, which actually results in it being chosen, although
>>> it doesn't appear to have worked, it actually does.
>>> To escape from PatchMix I need to hit alt+f4.
>>>
>>> Man, I've intended to find a way to configure PatchMix, but my sighted
>>> wife can't make heads or tails of that confusing mess of numbers in
>>> PatchMix, so I just use the factory default session template.
>>> Actually we can delete all those extra session templates for cards we
>>> don't have, like the ones for 0404, 1818, etcetera, which makes it
>>> easier to find the ones for our particular card.
>>> It's a great-sounding card, but a crappy company, with horrible support.
>>> Hope these drivers work for you, the forums say they will work for
>>> either the PCI or PCIE cards, don't know how that could be, but there's
>>> no choice other than these Windows 7 64 bit drivers.
>>> Good luck,
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/27/2014 9:38 AM, Hadi Rezaee wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> Indi, Here's the problem that i have with my audio interface:
>>>> When i install the reaper 64bit version, it shows 32 output/inputs for
>>>> my Audio interface, instead of my 8 one.
>>>> For example, instead of these inputs: kard L, Kard R, SPDIF1, SPDIF2,
>>>> It shows 32 inputs by number, like this:
>>>> Asio 1 in
>>>> asia 2 in.
>>>> But when i install the 32bit version of reaper, i get the normal ins
>>>> and outs.
>>>> I think i have the PCI version of EMU. can I install the PCIE version
>>>> of the driver, to see that if it works?
>>>> I google searched, and i found the PCIE version, which is released on
>>>> 2012, the beta one.
>>>> Is it the one that you currently have installed?
>>>> Here's the page that i found:
>>>> http://support.creative.com/downloads/welcome.aspx?nDriverType=11#type_11
>>>>
>>>> On 8/27/2014 5:31 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>> Hadi, there is a Windows 7 64 bit driver that works for your eMu
>>>>> 1212M.
>>>>> I know, because I have the eMu 1616M PCIE, and it runs fine on 64-bit
>>>>> Windows 7 Home Premium with the more recently released 64 bit driver.
>>>>> I think it's a re-written version of the beta driver that Creative
>>>>> released around 2010 for 64-bit Vista, which nearly worked, with some
>>>>> issues.
>>>>> In 2013 Creative issued an improved 64-bit driver for their older
>>>>> PCIE interfaces.
>>>>> You can google for eMu 1212M Windows 7 64-bit driver, and you'll get
>>>>> the exact World Creative page to download the driver.
>>>>> If you can't find it by googling, I'll post the download link.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for installing Reaper x64 and ReaAccess, mixing 32 and 64 bit
>>>>> Reaper files has been done, but, it's way simpler to install only the
>>>>> 64-bit version of Reaper on a computer running Windows 7 64 bit, and
>>>>> install only the 32-bit Reaper on a computer.
>>>>> running XP 32-bit.
>>>>> As for ReaAccess, there is only 1 version that works on both 32 and
>>>>> 64 bits.
>>>>> Install Reaper first, then open and close Reaper before installing
>>>>> ReaAccess.
>>>>> You didn't say what screenreader you're using.
>>>>> Jaws, NVDA and System Access all work for Reaper in 64-bits, but
>>>>> Window-Eyes can't run 64-bit Reaper.
>>>>> Hope any of this helps,
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/27/2014 5:41 AM, Hadi Rezaee wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks guys, for replying.
>>>>>> So, I see some reaaccess files in my reaper x64 directory. I'm
>>>>>> assuming that these are for the reaper 64bit version, right?
>>>>>> How would i find the 32 bit version of the files? since i cannot
>>>>>> install reaaccess when a 32bit version of reaper is installed.
>>>>>> Unfortunetly i have not a portable backup of REAPER. Is it possible
>>>>>> that one of you guys who has a 32bit version of reaper, copies all
>>>>>> the reaaccess files and send it to me?
>>>>>> Also, Apparently emu-1212m is a real headake when it comes to 64bit
>>>>>> edition of windows, since it is very old. it'ss very sad.
>>>>>> I have been reading and googling for 4 hours straight, but that only
>>>>>> is giving me more headake, so I should find a way to get those
>>>>>> reaaccess files. which are for 32bit version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/27/2014 6:17 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have to copy the files from a working install for reaccess.
>>>>>>> and the dll for your screen-reader.
>>>>>>> Also the keymap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't remember exactly which files,
>>>>>>> but if you browse around in the reaper directories, you'll see then
>>>>>>> like nvda client.dll or some such,
>>>>>>> and you also have to copy the keymap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it has to be the right version for a 32 or 64 bit
>>>>>>> install, the access files are different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YOu certainly can run 32 bit reaper on a 64 bit os, you just can't
>>>>>>> install it
>>>>>>> like you found out reaccess will always assume the os you are on is
>>>>>>> the version you want to run.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps you made a portable copy or two lying around someplace of
>>>>>>> your 32 bit installs with everything working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for the sound card, emu made some pretty good stuff for the day,
>>>>>>> but like so much great
>>>>>>> hardware from the past, manufacturers eventually quit writing good
>>>>>>> drivers for stuff because they want to sell you more hardware, they
>>>>>>> can't make any money.
>>>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So maybe you can find an old vista 64 bit driver that will work, or
>>>>>>> maybe not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Go check the manufacturer's website and see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/26/2014 6:21 PM, Hadi Rezaee wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi uguys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have faced a very terrible problem.
>>>>>>>> I have upgraded my memory from 4GB to 8GB. So i installed win7
>>>>>>>> 64bit.
>>>>>>>> I installed REAPER 64bit, but my audio interface which is
>>>>>>>> emu-1212M, cannot be detected in REAPER 64bit.
>>>>>>>> So i installed REAPER 32 bit, in my windows.
>>>>>>>> Now when i run reaaccess.exe, it keeps saying to run and close
>>>>>>>> REAPER. Apparently it thinks that I'm running a 64bit version of
>>>>>>>> REAPER, because my windows is 64bit.
>>>>>>>> Is there any hacks/fixes for this that you can think of?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
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