[RWP] SynthMaster, yet another Great-Sounding synth I can't access

[Scott Chesworth]

Not the case dude. I can think of a zillion plugs that don't expose
presets in Reaper's native format but do expose a ton of parameters
via automation in that Shift+P dialogue. Always worth a try in my
experience.

On 8/28/14, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
> The nearest thing we have to preset automation is midi program and bank
> change messages.
> Yeah, I think presets and parameters are being confused here.
> Shift+P will definitely expose parameters, but when the plug doesn't
> load with an initial preset I don't think there would be many parameters
> showing.
> I didn't look, but I'm guessing you would get no parameters at all in
> the shift+p list when there's no preset selected.
> Maybe the effects wet/dry switch would be there, since doesn't Reaper
> supply that one.
> SynthMaster likely has preset increment/decrement buttons on its plug
> interface, a tedious job to find and click on those, unless someone
> writes a script for it.
> Think I'll either try probing its screen with Jaws in 64 bits, or with
> Window-Eyes in 32 bits.
> Haven't had great success, so far with NBDA's object navigation, probing
> a plug's interface for hidden buttons.
> I tried NVDA OCR a little, but got nothing useful from it, but I'll go
> back to it again.
> I'm still hoping that NVDA eventually will equal or surpass Jaws and
> Wineyes ability to find non-speaking buttons at the NumPad.
> Now and then, only NVDA can see a button, when the others can't!
> Thanks,
> Indi
>
> On 8/28/2014 6:19 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
>> Interesting, I've never seen a plug expose actual presets via Shift+P
>> before. Can you think of any examples off the top of your head dude?
>> Also, did they expose real-world values, or was it the old 0.0 to 1.0
>> range? I'm asking because every developer I've spoken to seems to shy
>> away from exposing the presets themselves via automation, so it'd be
>> good to have an example of when it's been done successfully,
>> especially if that puppy was showing actual preset names.
>>
>> Cheers
>>
>> Scott
>>
>> On 8/28/14, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>>> Inaccessible presets/VSTi's in general is nothing new.
>>>
>>> Have you poked about in shift-p reaAccess params dialog? I've seen a
>>> few plugs that have preset as a parameter.
>>>
>>> Other than that it's trying to find the preset files, hoping they're
>>> in a readable format, and if the plug loads a default preset, change
>>> the name and replace another preset as default.
>>>
>>> On 8/27/14, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>> I just tried SynthMaster VST, which sounds great in their demos, and
>>>> they quote  all kinds of musicians saying it's the greatest.
>>>> Unfortunately, in Win 7 64 it comes up in Reaper with no preset loaded.
>>>> On the line beginning with % in Reaper's FX routing page, I found no
>>>> preset, routed it over to NVDA's number pad and clicked on it, which
>>>> did
>>>> nothing to get the preset list to display.
>>>> In Reaper's menu, I clicked on send all keyboard to plug, or whatever
>>>> the wording is, and still couldn't get a preset list to show up.
>>>> Does anyone know any other tricks to get preset lists to display?
>>>> I would think a synth, not a sample player or soundfont player, should
>>>> display its presets, or at least to come up with an initial preset
>>>> playing.
>>>> The website says there are more than 800 presets in SynthMaster.
>>>> Anyway, it's only a 15 minute demo, then takes you to their website to
>>>> buy it.
>>>> I also tried their free SynthMaster Player VST, but no matter how I
>>>> tried, it couldn't see its own text file with the required key code in
>>>> it.
>>>> Oh well, too much hassle for me, so I thought I'd save someone else the
>>>> frustration I experienced with SynthMaster.
>>>> If you have any ideas on how to get preset lists to expose themselves
>>>> in
>>>> VST plugs, I'd love to know.
>>>> Thanks,
>>>> Indi
>>>>
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