[RWP] reaaccess problem - It will not get installed on reaper 32bit, in windows 64bit
Hadi Rezaee
hadirezaei at gmx.com
Thu Aug 28 11:12:19 EDT 2014
Hi David
I installed reaper 32bit and now my inputs are listed correctly in
reaper, and they seem to be pre-configured or something.
I'm not really a pro-recorder, So i think i will use this emu-1212m
without any settings or anything, just default settings, untill i get
some money to grab a great audio interface.
I might create another topic for this, but I'm wondering what should i
buy if i want to junk this emu-1212m.
On 8/28/2014 1:39 AM, David P Shortland wrote:
> Hi & Greetings from Somewhere South of the Middle Bit...
>
> Yes Indy you are absolutely correct. All the routing needs to be
> addressed in the Patch Mix.
>
> The reason you cannot here from your Inputs 5 & 6 is because they are
> not configured in PatchMix.
>
> From what I recall of the Session I sent you, I only had Inputs 1 thru
> 4 configured.
>
> Also, the Inputs 1 & 2 on the Front Panel are a multi plug Input. Not
> only does it handle both Phono 6.5mm and XLR for Mics, but it can also
> take a Neutrik/Speakon connector.
>
> I used to really love my 1820M, but when I bought a new 64bit machine
> with Windows 7, I really had no other option than to change sound
> cards and went for the Mackie Onyx 1220I.
>
> I have had no regrets in doing this, and the headaches are now
> virtually non existant.
>
> In this day and age where machines can now handle most things we can
> throw at them in audio, why make our lives more complicated by using
> hardware/software that is inaccessable. There are certainly now quite
> a few companies who produce good hi-end accessable user friendly
> hardware in the audio interface department.
>
> I believe there still might be a few people on the Emu forums who can
> help out by doing the Patch Mix for you, give it a shot.
>
> TTFN...
>
> David P Shortland
> DragonScore Productions
>
>
>
> -----Original Message----- From: Indigo
> Sent: Thursday, August 28, 2014 2:50 AM
> To: Reapers Without Peepers
> Subject: Re: [RWP] reaaccess problem - It will not get installed on
> reaper 32bit, in windows 64bit
>
> I got the clue to set my eMu 1616M's outputs as 15/16 from Sonar, which
> automatically recognized 15/16 as outputs when I installed Sonar 8.5.3.
> It let me hear anything playing or input into Sonar, so I've continued
> to use 15/16 as outputs.
> In Reaper, outputs 15/16 also works to hear anything played or fed into
> Reaper.
>
> Now, inputs are a different story, one I understand even less.
> I am supposed to get 2 microphone XLR jacks, 2 Hi-Z electric guitar
> jacks in the middle of the XLR microphone jacks.
> These are both controlled by the same level knobs on the eMu box, so
> those count only as 2 inputs, left and right.
> Then on the back of the box I have 4 line level quarter-inch jacks,
> which should show up as left and right 1 plus left and right 2, but I
> can only get left and right 1 to work.
> I configured Reaper to use input 1 as first and input 6 as last; hoping
> to include the 2 microphone jacks and both sets of line level inputs;
> but nothing I do seems to let me hear anything plugged into that second
> set of line level jacks.
> I know the problem must be in PatchMix, which I can't access.
>
> I tried using the session template marked all inputs and outputs, which
> made no difference.
> So, I seem to be limited to 2 microphones; or; 2 electric guitar jacks,
> plus 2 line-level input jacks.
> A friend sent me a session template file that allowed all the inputs on
> his eMu 1820 card to work, but it seems not to help to get that second
> set of line level jacks to work on my 1616M
> As beautiful as it sounds, to me; this eMu card is like an enigma hidden
> inside a mystery hidden inside a riddle.
> I believe even Steven Hawking or Bill Gates couldn't puzzle it out!
> Indi
>
>
>
> On 8/27/2014 11:35 AM, Hadi Rezaee wrote:
>> Hi Indi.
>> Now i have this problem.. I don't know what input range should i
>> select in REAPER settings.
>> I tried setting input as the first, and input 8 as the last, and
>> output 15 as the first, and output 16 as the last.
>> But i can't hear my guitar when i plug it in into the kard L or Kard
>> R. and when i apply effects.
>> Any ideas...?
>>
>> On 8/27/2014 6:53 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>> Hadi, I love the sound of my eMu 1616M, but I sure don't love it's
>>> problems, just use it anyway.
>>> In Reaper's preferences, I set input 1 as the first, and input 6 as
>>> the last.
>>> For outputs, I set 15 as the first and 16 as the last.
>>> this is the only way I get mine to work properly.
>>> Here are links to download the proper 64-bit driver, and link to
>>> the proper PatchMix driver.
>>> Of course, install the driver first, reboot, then install PatchMix.
>>> Below the links, I'll talk about how I set the default session file
>>> for PatchMix, which you probably already know
>>> Here are the links, hope they are active:
>>>
>>> Use the 2.30 beta driver (EmuPMX_PCDrv_US_2_30_00_BETA.exe)
>>> http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=11913
>>> 2.20 app/PatchMix (EmuPMX_PCApp_US_2_20_00.exe)!
>>> http://support.creative.com/downloads/download.aspx?nDownloadId=12479
>>> Hadi, to choose a session template, I go to C:\Program
>>> Files\Creative Professional\
>>> and arrow to the program itself, open that and go to session
>>> templates, and arrow through all those session templates until I
>>> find the factory default one for the one that is for my card and the
>>> bit rate I'm recording at.
>>> I press enter on it, which actually results in it being chosen,
>>> although it doesn't appear to have worked, it actually does.
>>> To escape from PatchMix I need to hit alt+f4.
>>>
>>> Man, I've intended to find a way to configure PatchMix, but my
>>> sighted wife can't make heads or tails of that confusing mess of
>>> numbers in PatchMix, so I just use the factory default session
>>> template.
>>> Actually we can delete all those extra session templates for cards
>>> we don't have, like the ones for 0404, 1818, etcetera, which makes
>>> it easier to find the ones for our particular card.
>>> It's a great-sounding card, but a crappy company, with horrible
>>> support.
>>> Hope these drivers work for you, the forums say they will work for
>>> either the PCI or PCIE cards, don't know how that could be, but
>>> there's no choice other than these Windows 7 64 bit drivers.
>>> Good luck,
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>> On 8/27/2014 9:38 AM, Hadi Rezaee wrote:
>>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>> Indi, Here's the problem that i have with my audio interface:
>>>> When i install the reaper 64bit version, it shows 32 output/inputs
>>>> for my Audio interface, instead of my 8 one.
>>>> For example, instead of these inputs: kard L, Kard R, SPDIF1, SPDIF2,
>>>> It shows 32 inputs by number, like this:
>>>> Asio 1 in
>>>> asia 2 in.
>>>> But when i install the 32bit version of reaper, i get the normal
>>>> ins and outs.
>>>> I think i have the PCI version of EMU. can I install the PCIE
>>>> version of the driver, to see that if it works?
>>>> I google searched, and i found the PCIE version, which is released
>>>> on 2012, the beta one.
>>>> Is it the one that you currently have installed?
>>>> Here's the page that i found:
>>>> http://support.creative.com/downloads/welcome.aspx?nDriverType=11#type_11
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 8/27/2014 5:31 PM, Indigo wrote:
>>>>> Hadi, there is a Windows 7 64 bit driver that works for your eMu
>>>>> 1212M.
>>>>> I know, because I have the eMu 1616M PCIE, and it runs fine on
>>>>> 64-bit Windows 7 Home Premium with the more recently released 64
>>>>> bit driver.
>>>>> I think it's a re-written version of the beta driver that Creative
>>>>> released around 2010 for 64-bit Vista, which nearly worked, with
>>>>> some issues.
>>>>> In 2013 Creative issued an improved 64-bit driver for their older
>>>>> PCIE interfaces.
>>>>> You can google for eMu 1212M Windows 7 64-bit driver, and you'll
>>>>> get the exact World Creative page to download the driver.
>>>>> If you can't find it by googling, I'll post the download link.
>>>>>
>>>>> As for installing Reaper x64 and ReaAccess, mixing 32 and 64 bit
>>>>> Reaper files has been done, but, it's way simpler to install only
>>>>> the 64-bit version of Reaper on a computer running Windows 7 64
>>>>> bit, and install only the 32-bit Reaper on a computer.
>>>>> running XP 32-bit.
>>>>> As for ReaAccess, there is only 1 version that works on both 32
>>>>> and 64 bits.
>>>>> Install Reaper first, then open and close Reaper before installing
>>>>> ReaAccess.
>>>>> You didn't say what screenreader you're using.
>>>>> Jaws, NVDA and System Access all work for Reaper in 64-bits, but
>>>>> Window-Eyes can't run 64-bit Reaper.
>>>>> Hope any of this helps,
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 8/27/2014 5:41 AM, Hadi Rezaee wrote:
>>>>>> Thanks guys, for replying.
>>>>>> So, I see some reaaccess files in my reaper x64 directory. I'm
>>>>>> assuming that these are for the reaper 64bit version, right?
>>>>>> How would i find the 32 bit version of the files? since i cannot
>>>>>> install reaaccess when a 32bit version of reaper is installed.
>>>>>> Unfortunetly i have not a portable backup of REAPER. Is it
>>>>>> possible that one of you guys who has a 32bit version of reaper,
>>>>>> copies all the reaaccess files and send it to me?
>>>>>> Also, Apparently emu-1212m is a real headake when it comes to
>>>>>> 64bit edition of windows, since it is very old. it'ss very sad.
>>>>>> I have been reading and googling for 4 hours straight, but that
>>>>>> only is giving me more headake, so I should find a way to get
>>>>>> those reaaccess files. which are for 32bit version.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 8/27/2014 6:17 AM, Chris Belle wrote:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> You have to copy the files from a working install for reaccess.
>>>>>>> and the dll for your screen-reader.
>>>>>>> Also the keymap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Don't remember exactly which files,
>>>>>>> but if you browse around in the reaper directories, you'll see
>>>>>>> then like nvda client.dll or some such,
>>>>>>> and you also have to copy the keymap.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And it has to be the right version for a 32 or 64 bit
>>>>>>> install, the access files are different.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> YOu certainly can run 32 bit reaper on a 64 bit os, you just
>>>>>>> can't install it
>>>>>>> like you found out reaccess will always assume the os you are on
>>>>>>> is the version you want to run.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Perhaps you made a portable copy or two lying around someplace
>>>>>>> of your 32 bit installs with everything working.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As for the sound card, emu made some pretty good stuff for the day,
>>>>>>> but like so much great
>>>>>>> hardware from the past, manufacturers eventually quit writing
>>>>>>> good drivers for stuff because they want to sell you more
>>>>>>> hardware, they can't make any money.
>>>>>>> 'grin'.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> So maybe you can find an old vista 64 bit driver that will work,
>>>>>>> or maybe not.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Go check the manufacturer's website and see.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Good luck.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On 8/26/2014 6:21 PM, Hadi Rezaee wrote:
>>>>>>>> Hi uguys.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> I have faced a very terrible problem.
>>>>>>>> I have upgraded my memory from 4GB to 8GB. So i installed win7
>>>>>>>> 64bit.
>>>>>>>> I installed REAPER 64bit, but my audio interface which is
>>>>>>>> emu-1212M, cannot be detected in REAPER 64bit.
>>>>>>>> So i installed REAPER 32 bit, in my windows.
>>>>>>>> Now when i run reaaccess.exe, it keeps saying to run and close
>>>>>>>> REAPER. Apparently it thinks that I'm running a 64bit version
>>>>>>>> of REAPER, because my windows is 64bit.
>>>>>>>> Is there any hacks/fixes for this that you can think of?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Thanks.
>>>>>>>>
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