[RWP] SynthMaster, yet another Great-Sounding synth I can't access

[Indigo]

The nearest thing we have to preset automation is midi program and bank 
change messages.
Yeah, I think presets and parameters are being confused here.
Shift+P will definitely expose parameters, but when the plug doesn't 
load with an initial preset I don't think there would be many parameters 
showing.
I didn't look, but I'm guessing you would get no parameters at all in 
the shift+p list when there's no preset selected.
Maybe the effects wet/dry switch would be there, since doesn't Reaper 
supply that one.
SynthMaster likely has preset increment/decrement buttons on its plug 
interface, a tedious job to find and click on those, unless someone 
writes a script for it.
Think I'll either try probing its screen with Jaws in 64 bits, or with 
Window-Eyes in 32 bits.
Haven't had great success, so far with NBDA's object navigation, probing 
a plug's interface for hidden buttons.
I tried NVDA OCR a little, but got nothing useful from it, but I'll go 
back to it again.
I'm still hoping that NVDA eventually will equal or surpass Jaws and 
Wineyes ability to find non-speaking buttons at the NumPad.
Now and then, only NVDA can see a button, when the others can't!
Thanks,
Indi

On 8/28/2014 6:19 AM, Scott Chesworth wrote:
> Interesting, I've never seen a plug expose actual presets via Shift+P
> before. Can you think of any examples off the top of your head dude?
> Also, did they expose real-world values, or was it the old 0.0 to 1.0
> range? I'm asking because every developer I've spoken to seems to shy
> away from exposing the presets themselves via automation, so it'd be
> good to have an example of when it's been done successfully,
> especially if that puppy was showing actual preset names.
>
> Cheers
>
> Scott
>
> On 8/28/14, Alex H. <linuxx64.bashsh at gmail.com> wrote:
>> Inaccessible presets/VSTi's in general is nothing new.
>>
>> Have you poked about in shift-p reaAccess params dialog? I've seen a
>> few plugs that have preset as a parameter.
>>
>> Other than that it's trying to find the preset files, hoping they're
>> in a readable format, and if the plug loads a default preset, change
>> the name and replace another preset as default.
>>
>> On 8/27/14, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>> I just tried SynthMaster VST, which sounds great in their demos, and
>>> they quote  all kinds of musicians saying it's the greatest.
>>> Unfortunately, in Win 7 64 it comes up in Reaper with no preset loaded.
>>> On the line beginning with % in Reaper's FX routing page, I found no
>>> preset, routed it over to NVDA's number pad and clicked on it, which did
>>> nothing to get the preset list to display.
>>> In Reaper's menu, I clicked on send all keyboard to plug, or whatever
>>> the wording is, and still couldn't get a preset list to show up.
>>> Does anyone know any other tricks to get preset lists to display?
>>> I would think a synth, not a sample player or soundfont player, should
>>> display its presets, or at least to come up with an initial preset
>>> playing.
>>> The website says there are more than 800 presets in SynthMaster.
>>> Anyway, it's only a 15 minute demo, then takes you to their website to
>>> buy it.
>>> I also tried their free SynthMaster Player VST, but no matter how I
>>> tried, it couldn't see its own text file with the required key code in
>>> it.
>>> Oh well, too much hassle for me, so I thought I'd save someone else the
>>> frustration I experienced with SynthMaster.
>>> If you have any ideas on how to get preset lists to expose themselves in
>>> VST plugs, I'd love to know.
>>> Thanks,
>>> Indi
>>>
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