[RWP] rob papen product line with NVDA and system access?

[Patrick Perdue]

In my opinion, yes, it matters. I'd really like that functionality a lot, despite the fact that I have three available control surfaces here.

On Apr 2, 2014, at 6:27 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:

> Does it matter if we get automation from the typing keyboard, when control surfaces are so cheap and easy to use?
> I'm amazed that there are any blind musicians who still refuse to benefit from using control surfaces, like sticking to the horse and buggy on a modern freeway!
> I wouldn't suggest horses to get around, even though it's possible to train a guide horse.
> I tried horses, and they bite and kick, not to mention laying down plenty of land mines to step into.
> It seems irelevent to me whether we do automation by recording the output of a control surface, which we are able to hear in realtime as we move the physical controls,  or calculate it from the qwerty keyboard, which is way less intuitive.
> Indi
> On 3/26/2014 4:32 AM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
>> Don't forget that you can't actually automate parameters in this dialogue like you can with a control surface, I'.E. if you want to change things over time. That was one of the things supposedly offered by the never-to-be-released ReaAccess 2.0, more automation directly from the keyboard.
>> Oh well.
>> 
>> On Mar 24, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>> 
>>> You can always change the 0 to 1000 values in Reaper's shift+p parameters list., and, depending on which parameter, you  hear the preset's sound change in realtime.
>>> It's very tedious typing numbers into the value field, or raising/lowering values with arrows or page up/page down, but requires no additional equipment, like a control surface.
>>> But, if you don't want to grow old and gray tweaking the sometimes hundreds of parameters that a plug might have, I'd suggest a control surface.
>>> Sometimes you don't need to do much tweaking, like maybe go to Wet/Dry, which is the last parameter listed, to shut off a preset's huge wash of delay and reverb.
>>> That's just a simple on/off switch, with a value of 1000 or zero.
>>> Besides the shift+p parameters, there may be plenty of other options and switches that are only accessible from bit map images on a plug's interface.
>>> For those, you need some kind of already written scripts, or, to get sighted help finding the bit map icons, then saving their coordinates and finding a method to return to those coordinates.
>>> Indi
>>> 
>>> 
>>> On 3/22/2014 6:36 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>>> How's the ReaAccess parameters (shift-P) dialog for these? Can you
>>>> tweak things, or are there just way too many params and things to do
>>>> it that way?
>>>> thanks
>>>> 
>>>> On 3/22/14, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> Depends on what you call access.
>>>>> Predator, Blue, SubBoomBass, which are older Rob Papen synth I have,plus
>>>>> Albino, which is a LinPlug Synth, I believe written by Rob Papen, all
>>>>> display their list of presets to Window-Eyes, Jaws and probably to NVDA,
>>>>> in Reaper.
>>>>> I believe all those also respond to program Change messages, and change
>>>>> their presets, from any midi keyboard.
>>>>> You can assign any of their displayed parameters to any control surface,
>>>>> by Midi Learn.
>>>>> Predator has a special script that can be added to its registry entry
>>>>> that offers more text labeling, don't know if that's for the older 32
>>>>> bit versions only, or if it's available on 64 bits as well.
>>>>> I never tried to access these plugs directly from their native
>>>>> interfaces, just played their presets and made a few tweaks by midi learn.
>>>>> Indi
>>>>> 
>>>>> On 3/18/2014 8:34 PM, trahern culver wrote:
>>>>>> hey all what's the current accessibility situation of the rob papen
>>>>>> product line as specially predator and elbineo synths with the NVDA and
>>>>>> system access screen readers?
>>>>>> 
>>>>>> your help with these questions would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>>> trahern.
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