[RWP] rob papen product line with NVDA and system access?

[Indigo]

Does it matter if we get automation from the typing keyboard, when 
control surfaces are so cheap and easy to use?
I'm amazed that there are any blind musicians who still refuse to 
benefit from using control surfaces, like sticking to the horse and 
buggy on a modern freeway!
I wouldn't suggest horses to get around, even though it's possible to 
train a guide horse.
I tried horses, and they bite and kick, not to mention laying down 
plenty of land mines to step into.
It seems irelevent to me whether we do automation by recording the 
output of a control surface, which we are able to hear in realtime as we 
move the physical controls,  or calculate it from the qwerty keyboard, 
which is way less intuitive.
Indi
On 3/26/2014 4:32 AM, Patrick Perdue wrote:
> Don't forget that you can't actually automate parameters in this dialogue like you can with a control surface, I'.E. if you want to change things over time. That was one of the things supposedly offered by the never-to-be-released ReaAccess 2.0, more automation directly from the keyboard.
> Oh well.
>
> On Mar 24, 2014, at 1:20 PM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
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>> You can always change the 0 to 1000 values in Reaper's shift+p parameters list., and, depending on which parameter, you  hear the preset's sound change in realtime.
>> It's very tedious typing numbers into the value field, or raising/lowering values with arrows or page up/page down, but requires no additional equipment, like a control surface.
>> But, if you don't want to grow old and gray tweaking the sometimes hundreds of parameters that a plug might have, I'd suggest a control surface.
>> Sometimes you don't need to do much tweaking, like maybe go to Wet/Dry, which is the last parameter listed, to shut off a preset's huge wash of delay and reverb.
>> That's just a simple on/off switch, with a value of 1000 or zero.
>> Besides the shift+p parameters, there may be plenty of other options and switches that are only accessible from bit map images on a plug's interface.
>> For those, you need some kind of already written scripts, or, to get sighted help finding the bit map icons, then saving their coordinates and finding a method to return to those coordinates.
>> Indi
>>
>>
>> On 3/22/2014 6:36 PM, Alex H. wrote:
>>> How's the ReaAccess parameters (shift-P) dialog for these? Can you
>>> tweak things, or are there just way too many params and things to do
>>> it that way?
>>> thanks
>>>
>>> On 3/22/14, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>> Depends on what you call access.
>>>> Predator, Blue, SubBoomBass, which are older Rob Papen synth I have,plus
>>>> Albino, which is a LinPlug Synth, I believe written by Rob Papen, all
>>>> display their list of presets to Window-Eyes, Jaws and probably to NVDA,
>>>> in Reaper.
>>>> I believe all those also respond to program Change messages, and change
>>>> their presets, from any midi keyboard.
>>>> You can assign any of their displayed parameters to any control surface,
>>>> by Midi Learn.
>>>> Predator has a special script that can be added to its registry entry
>>>> that offers more text labeling, don't know if that's for the older 32
>>>> bit versions only, or if it's available on 64 bits as well.
>>>> I never tried to access these plugs directly from their native
>>>> interfaces, just played their presets and made a few tweaks by midi learn.
>>>> Indi
>>>>
>>>> On 3/18/2014 8:34 PM, trahern culver wrote:
>>>>> hey all what's the current accessibility situation of the rob papen
>>>>> product line as specially predator and elbineo synths with the NVDA and
>>>>> system access screen readers?
>>>>>
>>>>> your help with these questions would be most welcome kind regards
>>>>> trahern.
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