[RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds

Sun Sep 22 02:10:13 EDT 2013

yeah, my legacy has the staggered set too, and the high E peg is pretty darn 
short alright lol.
You should be able to get a non staggered set, or a set of the longest pegs 
though.

regards
Colin
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From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 3:31 PM
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Subject: Re: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds

> No, this was the staggered set, which has 3 short pegs and 3 longer pegs.
> The 3 shorter pegs go farthest from the nut.
> The staggered system is meant to keep all the strings very close to the 
> headstock; so you don't need string trees, one less friction point when 
> using the trem.
> I'll measure how little peg is sticking up and you'll know I'm not 
> exaggerating, you just barely have enough peg for a couple of turns, and 
> that's it!
> I don't know, all the Fender headstocks I've encountered so far are about 
> the same thickness, so I don't know what model Fender guitar Schaller had 
> in mind when they calculated the peg length.
> After I'd already began installing them, I dug into user reviews and found 
> plenty of users who were cursing Shaller like I was, who could barely get 
> the string hole in the peg to appear above the headstock.
> I didn't mind the staggered look, though I still don't understand how it's 
> required.
> I loved the beautiful quality of the machining and the Mercedes smoothness 
> of the tuners, but hated the fact that there was no template with the 
> tuners to help you locate the holes you drill for the studs, and no 
> reliable method to calculate getting the tuners upright, except eye 
> balling it, as sighted workers say.
> Maybe I'll get up the ambition to do the whole job over again, fill all 
> the holes and make some kind of jig to hold the tuners at 90 degrees to 
> the edge of the headstock.
> Meanwhile, if anybody sees them all slanted, I'll need to make up a story 
> about that's the way Eric Clapton had his done, or it's a definite 
> advantage while tuning to have them at a slant. smile.
> Indi.
>
>
>
>
> On 9/21/2013 5:07 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:
>> yes, but if you do a little research, you'll find that the tuners of
>> which you speak come in a short, and a long peg version...you obviously
>> got the short peg version hahaha.
>> My G and L legacy has the schaller locking tuners and I've taken them
>> off for relubing before.
>> They are a stock feature on that particular guitar's neck, so the holes
>> for the nipples on the inside of the gear housing are pre-drilled
>> instead of sunk in as you tighten the bushing from the other side of the
>> headstock.
>>
>> If one was going to do several guitars, a metal or hard plastic jig
>> might be a good thing to design or have help making to insure that any
>> drilled holes line up perfectly to the gear housing, as well as in a
>> nice straight line relative to the top edge of the headstock.
>> tricky yes, but a jig could easily be made that would move a little to
>> accomidate any sort of headstock design.
>> regards
>> Colin
>>
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>> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:16 PM
>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>> Subject: Re: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds
>>
>>> I would not advise the $43 Fender Schaller-type tuners sold on Amazon.
>>> Their quality is very nice, they lock onto the end of the string like
>>> a pair of ViceGrip pliers, but they don't mount with the tiny screws
>>> like stock Fender tuners.
>>> There are 2 pointed studs that stick out of the body of each tuner
>>> that require a little hole to fit into; and the actual thing that
>>> holds the tuners on is the metal nut on the tuning peg.
>>> I usually do careful work and get things on straight, but in spite of
>>> all I could do, they didn't go on perfectly straight, so the tkuning
>>> keys are all slanted a little from ninety degrees in relation to the
>>> side of the headstock.
>>> The Squire headstock is curved on the side anyway, making it really
>>> difficult to measure  what is exactly 90 degrees.
>>> I was gratified to read an article online from a sighted user who had
>>> the same problem, and didn't get his to go on perfectly aligned either.
>>> Besides the alignment problem, the tuning pegs on the staggered
>>> Schaller-type tuners are so short you need to tighten the mounting nut
>>> incredibly tight to get the string hole to appear above the surface of
>>> the headstock.
>>> I'd give them another turn with the socket wrench, way tighter than I
>>> would ordinarily do, and still no hole appearing; give the nut another
>>> turn; wondering when the threads would strip; or the headsgtock wood
>>> is gonna split wide open; and finally I got some string hole to show.
>>> Schaller's idea actually works, with not a bit of surplus peg sticking
>>> up, just enough for a couple turns of string; and the strings running
>>> very low barely off  the headstock, no string trees required; but what
>>> a crazy difficult installation process.
>>> How can Schaller advise you to wind the strings down toward the
>>> headstock, when the insertion hole is barely above the headstock, no
>>> place for string windings below the string hole.
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/21/2013 12:18 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:
>>>> well after the conversation here in the last few days, I went and got
>>>> myself a classic vibe '50's strat.  Except I got the limited eddition
>>>> version with the gold hardware...that's what happens when you take the
>>>> better half guitar shopping...it's ok though, because it plays, sounds
>>>> and feels really good. Apparently it was the sexiest, best looking
>>>> guitar in the store after all, and since it wasn't that much more than
>>>> the fiesta red fifties strat I went with it.
>>>> I'm typically not too concerned about the look of a guitar as long as 
>>>> it
>>>> plays and feels and sounds great.
>>>> the strings are as old as dirt on it, as most of them are on store
>>>> guitars.
>>>> Anyway, going to restring her today and do a minor set up.  I was
>>>> hesitant about the gold hardware because I know I'll want to change the
>>>> saddles to graphtech and the tuners to something better
>>>> Now, all i need is a decent audio interface and a mike so I can record
>>>> my various guitars and at least offer some decent demo's to everyone 
>>>> who
>>>> has been patiently tolerating this self indulgent thread lol.
>>>> They had the pine body cv fifties telly on the rack right beside the
>>>> strat too so I expect I'll have to go back in before long and get
>>>> that one.
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> regards
>>>> Colin
>>>>
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