[RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds

Sat Sep 21 17:31:18 EDT 2013

No, this was the staggered set, which has 3 short pegs and 3 longer pegs.
The 3 shorter pegs go farthest from the nut.
The staggered system is meant to keep all the strings very close to the 
headstock; so you don't need string trees, one less friction point when 
using the trem.
I'll measure how little peg is sticking up and you'll know I'm not 
exaggerating, you just barely have enough peg for a couple of turns, and 
that's it!
I don't know, all the Fender headstocks I've encountered so far are 
about the same thickness, so I don't know what model Fender guitar 
Schaller had in mind when they calculated the peg length.
After I'd already began installing them, I dug into user reviews and 
found plenty of users who were cursing Shaller like I was, who could 
barely get the string hole in the peg to appear above the headstock.
I didn't mind the staggered look, though I still don't understand how 
it's required.
I loved the beautiful quality of the machining and the Mercedes 
smoothness of the tuners, but hated the fact that there was no template 
with the tuners to help you locate the holes you drill for the studs, 
and no reliable method to calculate getting the tuners upright, except 
eye balling it, as sighted workers say.
Maybe I'll get up the ambition to do the whole job over again, fill all 
the holes and make some kind of jig to hold the tuners at 90 degrees to 
the edge of the headstock.
Meanwhile, if anybody sees them all slanted, I'll need to make up a 
story about that's the way Eric Clapton had his done, or it's a definite 
advantage while tuning to have them at a slant. smile.
Indi.

On 9/21/2013 5:07 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:
> yes, but if you do a little research, you'll find that the tuners of
> which you speak come in a short, and a long peg version...you obviously
> got the short peg version hahaha.
> My G and L legacy has the schaller locking tuners and I've taken them
> off for relubing before.
> They are a stock feature on that particular guitar's neck, so the holes
> for the nipples on the inside of the gear housing are pre-drilled
> instead of sunk in as you tighten the bushing from the other side of the
> headstock.
>
> If one was going to do several guitars, a metal or hard plastic jig
> might be a good thing to design or have help making to insure that any
> drilled holes line up perfectly to the gear housing, as well as in a
> nice straight line relative to the top edge of the headstock.
> tricky yes, but a jig could easily be made that would move a little to
> accomidate any sort of headstock design.
> regards
> Colin
>
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> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
> Sent: Saturday, September 21, 2013 1:16 PM
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> Subject: Re: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds
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>> I would not advise the $43 Fender Schaller-type tuners sold on Amazon.
>> Their quality is very nice, they lock onto the end of the string like
>> a pair of ViceGrip pliers, but they don't mount with the tiny screws
>> like stock Fender tuners.
>> There are 2 pointed studs that stick out of the body of each tuner
>> that require a little hole to fit into; and the actual thing that
>> holds the tuners on is the metal nut on the tuning peg.
>> I usually do careful work and get things on straight, but in spite of
>> all I could do, they didn't go on perfectly straight, so the tkuning
>> keys are all slanted a little from ninety degrees in relation to the
>> side of the headstock.
>> The Squire headstock is curved on the side anyway, making it really
>> difficult to measure  what is exactly 90 degrees.
>> I was gratified to read an article online from a sighted user who had
>> the same problem, and didn't get his to go on perfectly aligned either.
>> Besides the alignment problem, the tuning pegs on the staggered
>> Schaller-type tuners are so short you need to tighten the mounting nut
>> incredibly tight to get the string hole to appear above the surface of
>> the headstock.
>> I'd give them another turn with the socket wrench, way tighter than I
>> would ordinarily do, and still no hole appearing; give the nut another
>> turn; wondering when the threads would strip; or the headsgtock wood
>> is gonna split wide open; and finally I got some string hole to show.
>> Schaller's idea actually works, with not a bit of surplus peg sticking
>> up, just enough for a couple turns of string; and the strings running
>> very low barely off  the headstock, no string trees required; but what
>> a crazy difficult installation process.
>> How can Schaller advise you to wind the strings down toward the
>> headstock, when the insertion hole is barely above the headstock, no
>> place for string windings below the string hole.
>> Indi
>>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> On 9/21/2013 12:18 PM, Colin McDonald wrote:
>>> well after the conversation here in the last few days, I went and got
>>> myself a classic vibe '50's strat.  Except I got the limited eddition
>>> version with the gold hardware...that's what happens when you take the
>>> better half guitar shopping...it's ok though, because it plays, sounds
>>> and feels really good. Apparently it was the sexiest, best looking
>>> guitar in the store after all, and since it wasn't that much more than
>>> the fiesta red fifties strat I went with it.
>>> I'm typically not too concerned about the look of a guitar as long as it
>>> plays and feels and sounds great.
>>> the strings are as old as dirt on it, as most of them are on store
>>> guitars.
>>> Anyway, going to restring her today and do a minor set up.  I was
>>> hesitant about the gold hardware because I know I'll want to change the
>>> saddles to graphtech and the tuners to something better
>>> Now, all i need is a decent audio interface and a mike so I can record
>>> my various guitars and at least offer some decent demo's to everyone who
>>> has been patiently tolerating this self indulgent thread lol.
>>> They had the pine body cv fifties telly on the rack right beside the
>>> strat too so I expect I'll have to go back in before long and get
>>> that one.
>>>
>>>
>>> regards
>>> Colin
>>>
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