[RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds

Mon Sep 16 17:10:52 EDT 2013

I agree with your points on accessibility.  In my situation however i
live alone and am not currently in a band or anything, I have no
reliable eyes around for those brief moments  of set up that may
require them. So if i can't go out the box to fully set up and use
with no eyes, i try to avoid it. The main reason i am more interested
in the GR55 and VG 88 is i want the alternate tuning functionality
that these units offer. the Boss line doesn't offer any of this as
they don't have the 13 PIN a input. However these days the Peavey Auto
Tune guitar and the Line 6 veriax may have taken care of the Alternate
tuning on the fly issue for me. I have used processors from line 6 and
zoom before that work  great and are accessible in the manner you
discussed. And then i have used others , that no matter how slow i
tried to turn the knob and count clicks the turns were never
consistant and thus it really caused you to rely on being able to use
t read the display,  Since i couldn't independtly make my own patches
on that unit it had to go fairly quickly. Since it seems I have the
Alt Tuning situation under control in the guitars now, I may grab a
copy of the GT100 manul and give it a play next time i am at a music
store; and see how it holds up to the line 6 stuff. As far as my ears
are concerned thats the standard to beat in the consumer amp modelling
space.

On 9/16/13, Colin McDonald <blulemon at telus.net> wrote:
> no, he's not blind, just me and the drummer lol.
>
> I guess it depends on what you think of as accessible.
> Because the gr-55 is designed to be a completely stand alone unit, that
> means, no need to connect to any computer to get into the deeper parameters
>
> and set ups, as a result things are easily accessed from the unit itself.
> Does accessibility to you mean one button press and no menus?  or does it
> mean only 2 levels of menus or what?  Because for me, if I can read a manual
>
> and accomplish what I need to accomplish by hitting sequences of buttons and
>
> counting clicks on a wheel or whatever, that is perfectly acceptible.
> Also, I don't judge a device to be inaccessible if I need some basic sighted
>
> assistance with set up or calibrations or whatever.  As long as I can edit
> patches, and create the sounds I want on my own, then the unit, to me, is
> accessible.
> Is it as easy as turning knobs and flipping switches, well, no, but
> accessibility means different things to different people I guess.
> I have had no opportunity to actually sit down with the gr-55 and make
> patches from scratch etc.  I know it's accessible just based on the
> conversations I've had with my gtr player and from the youtube demo's etc.
> So my working knowledge of the unit is limited.
> If you want multi-modelling paths for amps, cabinets, mike placements and
> all that stuff, the gt100 is the unit you want.  The gr-55 is definitely a
> synth first, and a modeller second lol.
> The gk-3 pickup works well with strats and telecasters and probably a
> typical LP type guitar.  My guy modified one of his gk-3's to better
> accomidate the saddle curve on his 67 flying V and it tracks perfectly.
> I think earlier versions of the gk pickup had issues with tracking, but the
>
> gk-3 seems to be pretty solid.
> If you want perfect tracking all the time, you go with an under saddle piezo
>
> system rather than the stick on GK pickup.  Something like what the godin
> guitars have onboard for the midi portion of their output.
> regards
> Colin
> --------------------------------------------------
> From: "TheOreoMonster" <monkeypusher69 at gmail.com>
> Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 10:35 PM
> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
> Subject: Re: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds
>
>> I haven't played the GT100 but the GT10 still sounded very digital to my
>> ears. Nothing wrong with that as i don't mind it for modulation and delays
>>
>> personally, but the distortions left me still feeling cold. THe new BOSS
>> DA2 TE2 and MO2 may be up indie's alley though.
>>
>> Collin is the other guitarist in your band blind?  The thing that
>> concerned me about the GR55 was no computer control software just a
>> libraian editor, the control software for the VG 88 seemed  accessible
>> enough as i installed it to take aloof at it, but i did this without
>> connecting a VG88. Things that worry me about them was doing the initial
>> set up where you calibrated it for each string. Didn't know if that would
>>
>> be accessible. Also installing the GK3 pickup. even without the permanent
>>
>> install, how easy was it to get it to pick up all strings evenly? I read
>> some horror stories where even experienced techs won't install the things
>>
>> anymore cuz they could never the the two highest strings to track
>> properly.The plus of the GR55 over the VG88 is the GR55 is cheaper and
>> already in foot pedal format. The VG88 however has two signal paths for
>> the guitar modeling , where as the GR55 focus more on the synth sounds and
>>
>> only has one path for the guitar modeling.
>> On Sep 13, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>
>>> I agree about the sounds of Roland gear, plenty fat.
>>> I'm not just looking for the usual electric guitar sound, though.
>>> I'm more interested in unusual stringed instrument sounds; between
>>> straight electric guitar and midi synth sounds.
>>> Synths can supposedly make any sound, but there is so much going on
>>> inside a tightly stretched steel string you can get so many really
>>> beautiful sounds from within there.
>>> For the usual shredding sounds;I already have Guitar Rig and all those
>>> modeling plugs.
>>> I own the amazing synth Alchemy, where you can take electric guitar
>>> samples and stick them in Alchemy's folders, so that Alchemy creates
>>> fantasy stringed instruments from them, but you know; instead of just
>>> triggering stringed instrument sounds by pressing keys;  it's way more
>>> satisfying to directly pick, pluck, dampen, hammer, actual strings to get
>>>
>>> an infinity of interesting sounds from them.
>>> One thing I've been meaning to do is to feed electric guitar through
>>> Native Instruments Absynth 5, which has an audio input.
>>> You can apply any of Absynth 5's arpeggiators, filters, whatever to the
>>> guitar.
>>> Sometimes I just dread encountering yet another VST where I can't get
>>> hold of  not just parameters, but graphical screen icons that let you
>>> navigate to features.
>>> Since I got the $99 Novation Nocturn and AutoMap; I get  all automatable
>>>
>>> parameters from VST plugs, so all I need to do is to rotate 8 knobs or
>>> push 8 buttons on the Nocturn box, and sounds certainly change, but
>>> that's only part of real access to a plug.
>>> To get at menus, lists, preset browsers, switches that turn arpeggiation
>>>
>>> on and off, and other such things, it still requires people like Steve
>>> Spamer to dig into the plug's interface and provide scripts.
>>> Or, I just content myself with partial access, twist Nocturn's knobs and
>>>
>>> enjoy the sounds; and don't worry about what I can't get at.
>>> Indi
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On 9/12/2013 1:25 PM, Monkey Pusher wrote:
>>>> To my ears the boss stuff always sounded too digital. Honestly more
>>>> nterested in the roland stuff since it has alternate tuning
>>>> functionality. Also think the Roland GR55 may be closer to what u want
>>>> with the Adrenalinn
>>>>
>>>> On 9/11/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>>> I just listened to a YouTube on navigating around the Roland GT100,
>>>>> and
>>>>> it did seem that it should be accessible.
>>>>> It has no menus, but has page keys, and you just move things from 1
>>>>> screen to the other.
>>>>> I didn't memorize the navigation, so can't explain it in detail, but
>>>>> the
>>>>> reviewer thought it is super easy.
>>>>> It's loaded with features, including USB to computer, plus an
>>>>> auxiliary
>>>>>   out and in so you can add sounds from an external source.
>>>>> What it doesn't seem to have is the sounds of the AdrenaLinn pedal,
>>>>> which I love.
>>>>> Indi
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> On 9/11/2013 7:22 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>>>>> Hey Collin, Can you contact me off list/would you be up for a Skype
>>>>>> chat?
>>>>>> been very interested in the Roland  GR55/VG88 stuff and the Boss
>>>>>> stuff
>>>>>> mentioned but they didn't seem accessible on the surface  Would love
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> know  more about what you know about the stuff
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:31 PM, "Colin McDonald" <blulemon at telus.net>
>>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> go a few hundred bucks more and pick up the roland gr-55 guitar
>>>>>>> synth.
>>>>>>> it does allot more and is fairly accessible.
>>>>>>> or, for around the same price as the roger linn, go with the
>>>>>>> roland/boss
>>>>>>> gt100 which has all the harmonizer stuff in it along with a tonne of
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> amp
>>>>>>> and cab and even mike models to choose from.  again, very accessible
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> to
>>>>>>> use.
>>>>>>> the gr-55 is an excellent studio tool for guitarists.  with many amp
>>>>>>> models, cab models, mike models, mike placement options, along with
>>>>>>> all
>>>>>>> the best roland synth models on board.  Yes, you do have to put the
>>>>>>> gk-3
>>>>>>> pickup on your guitar, but that is a no brainer excersize...it's
>>>>>>> seriously powerful.
>>>>>>> but, if your budget is around that 400 dollar range, the gt10, or
>>>>>>> gt100
>>>>>>> will fit the bill nicely with everything the roger linn has and far
>>>>>>> more.
>>>>>>> perhaps not quite the same level of drum options though, so if
>>>>>>> that's
>>>>>>> what you are after, then it might not be quite what you need.  the
>>>>>>> boss
>>>>>>> stuff is for guitarists more than anything.  but there is capability
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> of
>>>>>>> loading drums tracks on to the thing.
>>>>>>> regards
>>>>>>> Colin
>>>>>>> --------------------------------------------------
>>>>>>> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:05 AM
>>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Actually, Roger Linn intended this thing for electric guitar, bass,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> midi
>>>>>>>> synth, and I'd run vocals through it, why not?
>>>>>>>> Here's an Adrenalinn 3 demo from JamShop, Sweden, then below that
>>>>>>>> is
>>>>>>>> somebody having fun with modulation effects, and below that is my
>>>>>>>> favorite, Lots of sound examples--hits and demos--of AdrenaLinn
>>>>>>>> III.
>>>>>>>> You get many of those arpeggios in the presets.
>>>>>>>> This thing is as much synthesizer as guitar processor, and I doubt
>>>>>>>> anyone could ever run to the end of all it can do.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hlgUIVxdY
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSy66E-VyOE
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfBDmw2H2Hw
>>>>>>>>
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