[RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds

Colin McDonald blulemon at telus.net
Mon Sep 16 13:10:26 EDT 2013 

no, he's not blind, just me and the drummer lol.

I guess it depends on what you think of as accessible.
Because the gr-55 is designed to be a completely stand alone unit, that 
means, no need to connect to any computer to get into the deeper parameters 
and set ups, as a result things are easily accessed from the unit itself.
Does accessibility to you mean one button press and no menus?  or does it 
mean only 2 levels of menus or what?  Because for me, if I can read a manual 
and accomplish what I need to accomplish by hitting sequences of buttons and 
counting clicks on a wheel or whatever, that is perfectly acceptible.
Also, I don't judge a device to be inaccessible if I need some basic sighted 
assistance with set up or calibrations or whatever.  As long as I can edit 
patches, and create the sounds I want on my own, then the unit, to me, is 
accessible.
Is it as easy as turning knobs and flipping switches, well, no, but 
accessibility means different things to different people I guess.
I have had no opportunity to actually sit down with the gr-55 and make 
patches from scratch etc.  I know it's accessible just based on the 
conversations I've had with my gtr player and from the youtube demo's etc.
So my working knowledge of the unit is limited.
If you want multi-modelling paths for amps, cabinets, mike placements and 
all that stuff, the gt100 is the unit you want.  The gr-55 is definitely a 
synth first, and a modeller second lol.
The gk-3 pickup works well with strats and telecasters and probably a 
typical LP type guitar.  My guy modified one of his gk-3's to better 
accomidate the saddle curve on his 67 flying V and it tracks perfectly.
I think earlier versions of the gk pickup had issues with tracking, but the 
gk-3 seems to be pretty solid.
If you want perfect tracking all the time, you go with an under saddle piezo 
system rather than the stick on GK pickup.  Something like what the godin 
guitars have onboard for the midi portion of their output.
regards
Colin
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From: "TheOreoMonster" <monkeypusher69 at gmail.com>
Sent: Sunday, September 15, 2013 10:35 PM
To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
Subject: Re: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds

> I haven't played the GT100 but the GT10 still sounded very digital to my 
> ears. Nothing wrong with that as i don't mind it for modulation and delays 
> personally, but the distortions left me still feeling cold. THe new BOSS 
> DA2 TE2 and MO2 may be up indie's alley though.
>
> Collin is the other guitarist in your band blind?  The thing that 
> concerned me about the GR55 was no computer control software just a 
> libraian editor, the control software for the VG 88 seemed  accessible 
> enough as i installed it to take aloof at it, but i did this without 
> connecting a VG88. Things that worry me about them was doing the initial 
> set up where you calibrated it for each string. Didn't know if that would 
> be accessible. Also installing the GK3 pickup. even without the permanent 
> install, how easy was it to get it to pick up all strings evenly? I read 
> some horror stories where even experienced techs won't install the things 
> anymore cuz they could never the the two highest strings to track 
> properly.The plus of the GR55 over the VG88 is the GR55 is cheaper and 
> already in foot pedal format. The VG88 however has two signal paths for 
> the guitar modeling , where as the GR55 focus more on the synth sounds and 
> only has one path for the guitar modeling.
> On Sep 13, 2013, at 8:46 AM, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>
>> I agree about the sounds of Roland gear, plenty fat.
>> I'm not just looking for the usual electric guitar sound, though.
>> I'm more interested in unusual stringed instrument sounds; between 
>> straight electric guitar and midi synth sounds.
>> Synths can supposedly make any sound, but there is so much going on 
>> inside a tightly stretched steel string you can get so many really 
>> beautiful sounds from within there.
>> For the usual shredding sounds;I already have Guitar Rig and all those 
>> modeling plugs.
>> I own the amazing synth Alchemy, where you can take electric guitar 
>> samples and stick them in Alchemy's folders, so that Alchemy creates 
>> fantasy stringed instruments from them, but you know; instead of just 
>> triggering stringed instrument sounds by pressing keys;  it's way more 
>> satisfying to directly pick, pluck, dampen, hammer, actual strings to get 
>> an infinity of interesting sounds from them.
>> One thing I've been meaning to do is to feed electric guitar through 
>> Native Instruments Absynth 5, which has an audio input.
>> You can apply any of Absynth 5's arpeggiators, filters, whatever to the 
>> guitar.
>> Sometimes I just dread encountering yet another VST where I can't get 
>> hold of  not just parameters, but graphical screen icons that let you 
>> navigate to features.
>> Since I got the $99 Novation Nocturn and AutoMap; I get  all automatable 
>> parameters from VST plugs, so all I need to do is to rotate 8 knobs or 
>> push 8 buttons on the Nocturn box, and sounds certainly change, but 
>> that's only part of real access to a plug.
>> To get at menus, lists, preset browsers, switches that turn arpeggiation 
>> on and off, and other such things, it still requires people like Steve 
>> Spamer to dig into the plug's interface and provide scripts.
>> Or, I just content myself with partial access, twist Nocturn's knobs and 
>> enjoy the sounds; and don't worry about what I can't get at.
>> Indi
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>> On 9/12/2013 1:25 PM, Monkey Pusher wrote:
>>> To my ears the boss stuff always sounded too digital. Honestly more
>>> nterested in the roland stuff since it has alternate tuning
>>> functionality. Also think the Roland GR55 may be closer to what u want
>>> with the Adrenalinn
>>>
>>> On 9/11/13, Indigo <33indigo at charter.net> wrote:
>>>> I just listened to a YouTube on navigating around the Roland GT100, and
>>>> it did seem that it should be accessible.
>>>> It has no menus, but has page keys, and you just move things from 1
>>>> screen to the other.
>>>> I didn't memorize the navigation, so can't explain it in detail, but 
>>>> the
>>>> reviewer thought it is super easy.
>>>> It's loaded with features, including USB to computer, plus an auxiliary
>>>>   out and in so you can add sounds from an external source.
>>>> What it doesn't seem to have is the sounds of the AdrenaLinn pedal,
>>>> which I love.
>>>> Indi
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> On 9/11/2013 7:22 PM, TheOreoMonster wrote:
>>>>> Hey Collin, Can you contact me off list/would you be up for a Skype 
>>>>> chat?
>>>>> been very interested in the Roland  GR55/VG88 stuff and the Boss stuff
>>>>> mentioned but they didn't seem accessible on the surface  Would love 
>>>>> to
>>>>> know  more about what you know about the stuff
>>>>>
>>>>> Thanks,
>>>>> On Sep 11, 2013, at 1:31 PM, "Colin McDonald" <blulemon at telus.net> 
>>>>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> go a few hundred bucks more and pick up the roland gr-55 guitar 
>>>>>> synth.
>>>>>> it does allot more and is fairly accessible.
>>>>>> or, for around the same price as the roger linn, go with the 
>>>>>> roland/boss
>>>>>> gt100 which has all the harmonizer stuff in it along with a tonne of 
>>>>>> amp
>>>>>> and cab and even mike models to choose from.  again, very accessible 
>>>>>> to
>>>>>> use.
>>>>>> the gr-55 is an excellent studio tool for guitarists.  with many amp
>>>>>> models, cab models, mike models, mike placement options, along with 
>>>>>> all
>>>>>> the best roland synth models on board.  Yes, you do have to put the 
>>>>>> gk-3
>>>>>> pickup on your guitar, but that is a no brainer excersize...it's
>>>>>> seriously powerful.
>>>>>> but, if your budget is around that 400 dollar range, the gt10, or 
>>>>>> gt100
>>>>>> will fit the bill nicely with everything the roger linn has and far
>>>>>> more.
>>>>>> perhaps not quite the same level of drum options though, so if that's
>>>>>> what you are after, then it might not be quite what you need.  the 
>>>>>> boss
>>>>>> stuff is for guitarists more than anything.  but there is capability 
>>>>>> of
>>>>>> loading drums tracks on to the thing.
>>>>>> regards
>>>>>> Colin
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>>>>>> From: "Indigo" <33indigo at charter.net>
>>>>>> Sent: Wednesday, September 11, 2013 11:05 AM
>>>>>> To: "Reapers Without Peepers" <rwp at reaaccess.com>
>>>>>> Subject: [RWP] Adrenalinn guitar pedal's sounds
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Actually, Roger Linn intended this thing for electric guitar, bass, 
>>>>>>> midi
>>>>>>> synth, and I'd run vocals through it, why not?
>>>>>>> Here's an Adrenalinn 3 demo from JamShop, Sweden, then below that is
>>>>>>> somebody having fun with modulation effects, and below that is my
>>>>>>> favorite, Lots of sound examples--hits and demos--of AdrenaLinn III.
>>>>>>> You get many of those arpeggios in the presets.
>>>>>>> This thing is as much synthesizer as guitar processor, and I doubt
>>>>>>> anyone could ever run to the end of all it can do.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=d3hlgUIVxdY
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=eSy66E-VyOE
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=OfBDmw2H2Hw
>>>>>>>
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